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Asus ROG Maximums XI Formula

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Does the Formula mobo have a built in water block or not. I have asked Asus on both Facebook and Twitter and I can not get a straight answer.  The closest thing I have gotten was:

 

Asus North America: "We include water cooling capability to the motherboard on our "formula" motherboards. You don't need to, just an added functionality if it fits well with your design."

 

Either it has one or not. If it indeed has one.. Wouldn't it need to have water flowing though it so the VRM's won't overheat? If it doesn't have one, where do you get it (can't find it at EK) and what keeps the VRM's cool in the mean time? Asus recently gave a system away with a Formula included but, it didn't have lines hooked up for cooling. That is why I asked.

 

This newbie is completely lost!

 

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it comes with a vrm water block for only the vrms.  nothing else


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Just now, xdeathshot20 said:

it comes with a vrm water block for only the vrms.  nothing else

So, how do the vrm's stay cool if there isn't water flowing throw it?

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It has a built in waterblock for a VRM they should spend $10 more on so it doesnt suck as much

 

Not sure why they decided not to use the waterblock by using an AIO for the CPU, but hey they also deemed $10 worth of controller and powerstages too much for a $300+ board so maybe a custom loop is worth too much effort on a PC they give away for marketing reasons.


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YES. It definitely includes the Crosschill EK III hybrid VRM waterblock.

 

 


 

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Just now, James N. said:

But, Asus says it doesn't have to be water cooled!

Because it's a "hybrid" design, meaning air and or liquid cooling. 

 

Chances are you won't be overclocking hard enough to need to water cool the VRMs.


 

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Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

Because it's a "hybrid" design, meaning air and or liquid cooling. 

 

Chances are you won't be overclocking hard enough to need to water cool the VRMs.

Thank you! That's what I have been trying to figure out. Even though it has a water block It still has air flow to the vrm's as well.

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Just now, James N. said:

Thank you! That's what I have been trying to figure out. Even though it has a water block It still has air flow to the vrm's as well.

The water block is a heat sink by design water or no water. 

Yes you want to keep air flow on the waterblock/heatsink. Always a good idea.

 

 


 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So, until I have the money for water cooling. I can still use the board with out worry.

 

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Just now, James N. said:

So, until I have the money for water cooling. I can still use the board with out worry.

 

Yessir. You will be just fine.


 

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Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

The water block is a heat sink by design water or no water. 

Yes you want to keep air flow on the waterblock/heatsink. Always a good idea.

 

 

You think the fans from the cpu cooler will be sufficient in the mean time

 

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Just now, James N. said:

You think the fans from the cpu cooler will be sufficient in the mean time

 

As long as you have decent case air flow, yes, should be fine.

You can monitor the VRM temps once you've got the system built and running.


 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

As long as you have decent case air flow, yes, should be fine.

You can monitor the VRM temps once you've got the system built and running.

Yes Sir, I have a Cool Master H500M. Excellent airflow ?

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Just now, James N. said:

Yes Sir, I have a Cool Master H500M. Excellent airflow ?

Hell yea, that's a nice case. 

Mine's retired, used the Silverstone TJ07 for many years.


 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Hell yea, that's a nice case. 

Mine's retired, used the Silverstone TJ07 for many years.

Holy caesar salad that case cost a lot of lettuce!

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1 minute ago, James N. said:

Holy caesar salad that case cost a lot of lettuce!

It's massive to say the least lol. 

Houses 2x PSUs. 

Full on custom loop non issue.

Still have the x3 water cooled 580s (One is toasted though)

I've done quite a few builds with it. 

Before this case, I had the Antec 900


 

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This will be my first build in a long time. Haven't done this since the days of the Pentium 4. Wow, I'm old! Haven't kept up with the tech so much since then. Currently running a 12 year old HP Pavilion - i7-6500U. Baby is starting to show her age when it comes to games. Been good to me though. But the time has come to step it up a bit.

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2 minutes ago, James N. said:

This will be my first build in a long time. Haven't done this since the days of the Pentium 4. Wow, I'm old! Haven't kept up with the tech so much since then. Currently running a 12 year old HP Pavilion - i7-6500U. Baby is starting to show her age when it comes to games. Been good to me though. But the time has come to step it up a bit.

Lol, I'm from the same era (I think?) Gen X.

 

Since you don't "need" to water cool the VRMs, perhaps look at the Maximus Apex (top board) or Hero. 

Oh and be sure to get some high speed memory. Watcha looking to get? The 9900K/KS??


 

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Yeah, I already purchased the i9-9900k. I thought about the AMD 9 3950x but, I don't like the AMD boards. Mainly the built in fan.  I know I'm going to get at least 3200mhz. However, if I can afford more at the time of purchase I might look at around 4000mhz. I will probably max out the ram capacity at 64gb since I do graphics as well as play games. The board that I wanted is the Code

 

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The Code is a good board too. I love the Armor look it has. 

With 64GB, Aim for 3600mhz CL 16 would be fine. Probably OC up.

I've only run 32BG of memory on the sig rig. B-Dies 4000mhz CL 19.

Generally run 3600mhz CL16 though, not a great deal of performance loss due to the timings.

 

 

 


 

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34 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Since you don't "need" to water cool the VRMs

The Hero, with a heatsink better for air, already runs near 80C

On the formula, monitoring the VRM temperature with HWinfo if not a thermal probe is absolutely necessary.

 


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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

The Hero, with a heatsink better for air, already runs near 80C

On the formula, monitoring the VRM temperature with HWinfo if not a thermal probe is absolutely necessary.

 

Since when was 80c an issue for VRMs? 

 

Been removing heat sinks off of memory modules for many years for the exact same reason. ;)


 

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Ryzen Athlon 220ge with Vega Graphics / Asus Prime B450M-A / Corsair LED 3000mhz / 550w Antec Office PC.

DFI LanParty UT / Opteron 148 / DDR Corsair XMS Expert / X1800 XT 256MB Bios modded

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