Ryzen 2060S/2070S

[Aidan.69420]

I’m building my first ever pc, and I’m wondering if I should use a Ryzen 2600 paired with a RTX 2070 Super, or a Ryzen 3600 paired with a RTX 2060 Super.  I’m trying to either use $100 CDN more on the GPU or CPU.  I’ll be gaming at 1080p 144hz, and I’ve chosen NVIDIA because of G sync.  Which would be better for gaming?

[Jurrunio]

You have a Gsync only monitor? Or is it Gsync compatible but not Ultimate?

 

R5 3600 + 2060S is better just because you aim for high frame rates, 2nd gen struggle a lot more. You still need some decent memory kit to follow it though

[Aidan.69420]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You have a Gsync only monitor? Or is it Gsync compatible but not Ultimate?

 

R5 3600 + 2060S is better just because you aim for high frame rates, 2nd gen struggle a lot more. You still need some decent memory kit to follow it though

Asus VG248QG 24” G-Sync Compatible Gaming Monitor 165Hz Full HD 1080p 0.5ms DP HDMI DVI Eye Care.  That’s the monitors full title.  Also sorry.  Meant it was 165hz, not 144hz.  Also I was going to get 3000mhz Trident Z RGB 2x8GB.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Aidan.69420 said:

Asus VG248QG 24” G-Sync Compatible Gaming Monitor 165Hz Full HD 1080p 0.5ms DP HDMI DVI Eye Care.  That’s the monitors full title.  Also sorry.  Meant it was 165hz, not 144hz.

That's just a Freesync monitor that passed Nvidia specification. Gsync Ultimate monitors are those with adaptive refresh rate only for Nvidia cards.

 

1 minute ago, Aidan.69420 said:

 Also I was going to get 3000mhz Trident Z RGB 2x8GB.

If you ditch the RGB part you can probably get some 3600MHz memory, if not lower timings like CL16 or 17.

[Aidan.69420]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That's just a Freesync monitor that passed Nvidia specification. Gsync Ultimate monitors are those with adaptive refresh rate only for Nvidia cards.

 

If you ditch the RGB part you can probably get some 3600MHz memory, if not lower timings like CL16 or 17.

Not sure how much of a difference this makes but I’m planning it to be a mini ITX build in an NZXT H210 case and was going to use an AORUS b450 i Pro wifi mobo.  The site lists its ram specs as “DDR4 3200(O.C.)/ 2933/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133” 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Aidan.69420 said:

Not sure how much of a difference this makes but I’m planning it to be a mini ITX build in an NZXT H210 case and was going to use an AORUS b450 i Pro wifi mobo.  The site lists its ram specs as “DDR4 3200(O.C.)/ 2933/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133” 

That's spec based on 2nd gen's memory capability. That's a really weak B450 ITX board though, enough for R5 3600 but there's no advantage for it otherwise

 

 

[Aidan.69420]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That's spec based on 2nd gen's memory capability. That's a really weak B450 ITX board though, enough for R5 3600 but there's no advantage for it otherwise

 

 

I chose it because it was a reasonably priced wifi board.  Any boards you recommend, and should I get a non-wifi board and just buy adapters from a third party?

[MadmanRB]

well you can add your own wifi, plenty of third party dongles out there if you need wireless for cheap.

As for me either or is a great option, I say getting the better GPU is more important here as more games tend to be GPU bound then CPU bound.

And the 2600 is still a great processor in its own right, yes it falls behind the 3600 but its relatively low price does make it a viable option.

There is also the soft relaunch of the ryzen 1600 now, the AF model is cheaper then the 2600 and will have almost the same performance.

I have seen the 1600 AF on amazon for $85.00 USD its quite the steal at that price.

The AF is certainly nothing to sneeze at considering there is a full $100 price difference between it and the 3600, so in a way AMD is competing against itself here offering a great budget processor for your money.

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, Aidan.69420 said:

I chose it because it was a reasonably priced wifi board.  Any boards you recommend, and should I get a non-wifi board and just buy adapters from a third party?

ITX boards all have Wifi

 

I prefer the asus or msi b450 itx board. Even Asrock one is better than the Gigabyte

[Firewrath9]

40 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

ITX boards all have Wifi

 

I prefer the asus or msi b450 itx board. Even Asrock one is better than the Gigabyte

Different quality of wifi though

 

The B450i Gaming Plus has a AC 3168 from intel, which is slow (single band), unreliable, and old. If he's using wifi I would not get that board.

 

the B450i aorus pro has a 160mhz and BT 5 compatable dual band wifi card, so it's either a 9260/9560, as if it was ax200 they would be saying 802.11ax support. I've heard of coil whine issues though on the aorus pro.

 

the B450i strix is often a good bit more expensive, but is decent. Has a AC 8260 as it has BT 4.2, and no 160mhz band support

 

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

slow (single band)

Intel calls it dual band though, some marketing gimmick going on?

 

https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/products/wireless/wireless-products/dual-band-wireless-ac-3168.html

[Firewrath9]

13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Intel calls it dual band though, some marketing gimmick going on?

 

https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/products/wireless/wireless-products/dual-band-wireless-ac-3168.html

well by single band I mean 1x1

Intel might call it dual band becuase it can use both 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz, I might've gotten the name's mixed up.