Fps drops and stuttering on most games - Good PC - TIRED OF THIS

[luzbelivo]

16 minutes ago, Brent744 said:

You absolutely can overclock to those frequencies and likely even higher with that cooler. You can probably get to 4.2 or 4.4 without having to touch the voltage. Your warranty will only become void if you overclock past the rated turbo speed which is 4.7, but all "K" series chips were engineered and manufactured to be overclocked.

 

Just boot into the bios (setup) and navigate to the cpu frequencies page. I cannot tell you exactly where to find the freq page because every motherboard has a different menu layout. Increase the cpu frequency until you reach 4.2 or 4.4 (4200mhz or 4400mhz). Then "Exit, Savings current settings". Run Cinebench or Prime95 to ensure stability. If it crashes don't be alarmed, it just means you need to shutdown, boot back into bios and increase the voltage but I don't believe you'll have to with those frequencies.

 

Let us know how you make out.

All right thank you very much for your answer! I'll try it when i get home and i will post here the result. Thank you all for your help, i really appreciate it.

[Tristerin]

OP - its not as long as a shot as you might think but perhaps your monitor cable is faulty?  Are you using any sort of adapter going from DVI to HDMI etc?

[luzbelivo]

10 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

OP - its not as long as a shot as you might think but perhaps your monitor cable is faulty?  Are you using any sort of adapter going from DVI to HDMI etc?

I was a using a DVI cable before and a few days ago i replaced my older gpu for the rtx 2080 and now i'm using a DisplayPort and the stutter is the same sadly.

[Tristerin]

What are your clock speeds during stuttering for CPU and GPU? 

 

Do you have AVX Offset disabled?

Disable CPU Lite Load?

(both in BIOS on that mobo)

[Mister Woof]

3 hours ago, luzbelivo said:

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Try increasing current limit in bios to maximum.' I don't get this. How i should do this?

In bios CPU current limit might be overly conservative at stock and in very CPU intensive tasks it might be throttling your CPU to try to keep it at Intel spec - 

 

If you change it to unlimited it won't harm anything and might resolve your problem.

 

Or just enable MCE and that might fix your problem too (even though it isn't optimally efficient)

 

It's worth a shot since you seem to have tried everything else.

 

Also make sure your windows is set to high performance

[Mister Woof]

2 hours ago, luzbelivo said:

Mmm... i've always been afraid of overclocking hardware, i may need some advice. I have a Hyper 212 EVO Cooler, do you think that would be enough for overclocking to 4.2 or 4.4? Seriously i've never done it before i don't wanna mess it up 

4.3ghz all-core is the cpu's stock boost frequency. As long as cooling is sufficient it should stay there forever if needed.

 

My wife's nonk 8700 stays at 4.3 all day on a cheap arctic freezer 33

 

You can probably handle anything up to 1.3v and that's prob 4.7-4.8ghz easily with that cooling.

 

However, your motherboard seems to be on the budget side. Try just current limit removal and see what happens.

 

Your board is different but principles are the same. Check here:

 

https://view.joomag.com/gigabyte-z370-overclocking-guide/0865178001507187695?page=4

[NeroLobos]

Do you mind running 3D mark and linking your scores ??

[luzbelivo]

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

What are your clock speeds during stuttering for CPU and GPU? 

 

Do you have AVX Offset disabled?

Disable CPU Lite Load?

(both in BIOS on that mobo)

I don't have CPU Lite Load on the mobo settings and can you explain what AVX is? I've never heard of it

[luzbelivo]

18 minutes ago, NeroLobos said:

Do you mind running 3D mark and linking your scores ??

No problem, i'll do as soon as i arrive home.

[luzbelivo]

35 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

4.3ghz all-core is the cpu's stock boost frequency. As long as cooling is sufficient it should stay there forever if needed.

 

My wife's nonk 8700 stays at 4.3 all day on a cheap arctic freezer 33

 

You can probably handle anything up to 1.3v and that's prob 4.7-4.8ghz easily with that cooling.

 

However, your motherboard seems to be on the budget side. Try just current limit removal and see what happens.

 

Your board is different but principles are the same. Check here:

 

https://view.joomag.com/gigabyte-z370-overclocking-guide/0865178001507187695?page=4

Do you think my motherboard could be a problem or do you suggest to do the overclock anyways? Just to make sure and not put my rig at risk

[Mister Woof]

6 minutes ago, luzbelivo said:

Do you think my motherboard could be a problem or do you suggest to do the overclock anyways? Just to make sure and not put my rig at risk

If I were you, I'd do a manual OC to 4.3ghz (43 multiplier) which you can probably get at under 1.25v probably closer to 1.2, setting power limit to max, LLC on auto, and disabling c-states and disabling power saving features. This is essentially a stock setup but removing potential power throttling.

 

At 1.355v and at 5ghz all day long, my CPU pulls like 13w at idle. So power savings don't really mean much unless you've got 500 systems in an office.

 

 

[Tristerin]

23 minutes ago, luzbelivo said:

I don't have CPU Lite Load on the mobo settings and can you explain what AVX is? I've never heard of it

Look up your mobo's settings and how to disable it.  Almost all games use AVX instructions and when AVX instructions hit, clock speeds drop (as I understand it) to keep temps in line (because AVX instructions can really push the temps)

 

That and Ive read about AVX offset bugs in motherboards BIOS's causing issues.

[Mister Woof]

Also make sure you got some airflow over your vrm and try to check the temps

[luzbelivo]

10 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Also make sure you got some airflow over your vrm and try to check the temps

First i will try to overclock it to 4.2 or 4.3 ghz and see how it goes from there. I hope it doesn't make my computer much hotter hahah.

[Mister Woof]

8 minutes ago, luzbelivo said:

First i will try to overclock it to 4.2 or 4.3 ghz and see how it goes from there. I hope it doesn't make my computer much hotter hahah.

I mean it should not, because that's basically stock behavior

[luzbelivo]

6 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

I mean it should not, because that's basically stock behavior

Ok i tried to overclock and did well, my CPU is at 4.3ghz now and i put AVX offset on -2. It didn't work, games still stutter. I disabled C-state on BIOS and everything related to 'power saving'. I'm about to give up, for real

[luzbelivo]

7 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Look up your mobo's settings and how to disable it.  Almost all games use AVX instructions and when AVX instructions hit, clock speeds drop (as I understand it) to keep temps in line (because AVX instructions can really push the temps)

 

That and Ive read about AVX offset bugs in motherboards BIOS's causing issues.

I put AVX offset on -2 and i found the other option you said but you can´t disable it. You can only see Modes like this: 'Mode 1, Mode 2, Mode 3, etc'. Overclocking didn't do the trick unfortunately.

[Mister Woof]

Did you change power current limit to something like 255

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, luzbelivo said:

I put AVX offset on -2 and i found the other option you said but you can´t disable it. You can only see Modes like this: 'Mode 1, Mode 2, Mode 3, etc'. Overclocking didn't do the trick unfortunately.

You probably don't need -avx offset. I'd just leave it at 0

[Mister Woof]

As a final thought try a different storage device.

 

I had a bad SSD that caused all sorts of problems.

[luzbelivo]

8 hours ago, NeroLobos said:

Do you mind running 3D mark and linking your scores ??

Here i'll post the results. This is with the overclock done.

[NeroLobos]

9 minutes ago, luzbelivo said:

Here i'll post the results. This is with the overclock done.

Can you click the compare results button and link the url

[luzbelivo]

34 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

As a final thought try a different storage device.

 

I had a bad SSD that caused all sorts of problems.

I did change the power limit. Could it be a faulty CPU or a faulty Motherboard? I don't know really. The thing is Witcher 3 runs pretty good now but, like i said, i gotta test a few times because it happens randomly. Sometimes you launch the game and runs flawlessly and sometimes you open it and runs like crap. CS GO is still stuttering, no doubt about that.

[luzbelivo]

1 minute ago, luzbelivo said:

I did change the power limit. Could it be a faulty CPU or a faulty Motherboard? I don't know really. The thing is Witcher 3 runs pretty good now but, like i said, i gotta test a few times because it happens randomly. Sometimes you launch the game and runs flawlessly and sometimes you open it and runs like crap. CS GO is still stuttering, no doubt about that.

And like i said, i opened the game again and the stutter returned. THIS IS CRAZY, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND LOGIC ANYMORE

[Mister Woof]

i got nothing else besides that - hopefully someone comes along with better suggestions