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Posted · Original PosterOP
Hi normal i would be beter of with a 9700K instead off a 8700k i think.
 
Wich one would be cheaper?
 
They Said in store wye dont u take AMD 2700x.
 
 
I want the max enjoiy of time with it.
 
Wich would be better for gaming?
 
I em not an AMD fan but if I want the cheapest fastest parts im forced to buy it
not saiying AMD is slower or bad.
 
Im struggeling tho buy RTX 2070 or 2080.
 
can I save money on the CPU and take a 2080 and dont have a bad bottleneck.
 
Max main goal.
Intel cpu
 
16 gb ram
 
nvidia GPU bood frames
 
NVME SSD 250GB
 
 
My budget is around 1500+- €
 
 
 
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an amd 2700x would be the cheapest, but both intel CPUs would be slightly better for gaming.

8700k would perform slightly better for gaming, and i think it's slightly cheaper depending on availability

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13 hours ago, Derrk said:

an amd 2700x would be the cheapest, but both intel CPUs would be slightly better for gaming.

8700k would perform slightly better for gaming, and i think it's slightly cheaper depending on availability

I would say that 9700k is slightly better than 8700k for gaming. Games love strong performing cores, and i7 9700k have 8 of them, with no hyperthreading. 

At least for MMORPG games, 9700k would be better.

Also 9700k is soldered, and should have better thermals than 8700k. Meaning you can also OC it more and gain even better performance. 

 

57 minutes ago, Jongofet said:

My tought is im forced to buy the best Intel cpu to have the best performance

Well right now Intel is still better for some games. There are rumors  and even early look at Zen2 ... it seems like Zen 2 will be able to compete also at single core performance, from what we have seen so far. But it's too early to tell, how exactly will Zen 2 compare with current i7 9700k and i9 9900k, when it comes out.

Computex is sadly still far away, and I guess you don't want to just wait for next 6 months before Zen2 might actually be released. 

 

About RTX 2070 and 2080 ... I just bought used GTX 1080 Ti for 500€, with 500days of warranty left. GTX 2070 new one costs 560€ for cheapest model and RTX 2080 for 800€.

Since RTX 2080 and GTX 1080 Ti perform about the same, I'm pretty happy with my purchase ... much lower price for same performance. So you might want to check if you can find any decent deals of used GTX 1080 Ti's.


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On 1/24/2019 at 3:01 PM, Simon771 said:

I would say that 9700k is slightly better than 8700k for gaming. Games love strong performing cores, and i7 9700k have 8 of them, with no hyperthreading. 

At least for MMORPG games, 9700k would be better.

Also 9700k is soldered, and should have better thermals than 8700k. Meaning you can also OC it more and gain even better performance. 

 

Well right now Intel is still better for some games. There are rumors  and even early look at Zen2 ... it seems like Zen 2 will be able to compete also at single core performance, from what we have seen so far. But it's too early to tell, how exactly will Zen 2 compare with current i7 9700k and i9 9900k, when it comes out.

Computex is sadly still far away, and I guess you don't want to just wait for next 6 months before Zen2 might actually be released. 

 

About RTX 2070 and 2080 ... I just bought used GTX 1080 Ti for 500€, with 500days of warranty left. GTX 2070 new one costs 560€ for cheapest model and RTX 2080 for 800€.

Since RTX 2080 and GTX 1080 Ti perform about the same, I'm pretty happy with my purchase ... much lower price for same performance. So you might want to check if you can find any decent deals of used GTX 1080 Ti's.

If the new zen 2 is better i can definitely wait.

 

When is it Computex and which country is that, are there livestreams then?

 

Umm wye would i buy a second hand GPU?

What's the difference?

 

I tought i don't buy that i wound new stuff then im safe off my purchase.

I think if i talk to my dad he would say don't do that he always buys stuff only. 

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On 1/26/2019 at 1:56 AM, Jongofet said:

If the new zen 2 is better i can definitely wait.

 

When is it Computex and which country is that, are there livestreams then?

 

Umm wye would i buy a second hand GPU?

What's the difference?

 

I tought i don't buy that i wound new stuff then im safe off my purchase.

I think if i talk to my dad he would say don't do that he always buys stuff only. 

Computex will be between 28th May and 1st June. More info can be found here: https://www.computextaipei.com.tw/

There are always a lot of people streaming and taking notes what's going at Computex.

 

Why would you buy used GPU? Because it would be cheaper, or you can get much better performance for same price that you are prepared to spend.

But I can relate with you not wanting to buy used PC parts. I was like that before also, since people can't be always trusted. Luckily for me there are plenty of laws in my country, protecting me from being scammed or something in that regard. 

I only gave my personal opinion, that you can get used GPU with more performance for that price, but you can always just buy new one, if you want to avoid all risks. Totally up to you :)


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On 1/28/2019 at 1:15 PM, Simon771 said:

Why would you buy used GPU? 

I don't buy it second hand. 

 

I think if you i want the best cpu for game performance i best look at Intel even if the new zen cpu is out there. 

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If you are chasing high refresh 1080p/1440p gaming, Intel 8700k/9700k/9900k.

 

If your are looking at cinematic 1080p/1440p/4k, then Ryzen 5 2600.


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