Silicon Lottery loser?

[phoon]

Alright, I built my PC back when Nvidia's 10-series came out. Quick list

 

i7-6700K

Asus Z170-A

Corsair 32 GB LED (4x8)

Corsair CS550M

Asus strix GTX 1080

 

Quickly to the problem, I either don't know how to overclock even after watching a dozen videos explaining how to OR I am the most unlucky 6700k owner were I got a bad unit that has the same overclockablity as a potato. At some point I did have concerned with the power supply being too weak but those concerns were cleared up by other PC "experts" telling me that 550 W was enough, but I thought I should mention it. BUT, all-caps but is necessary, after hearing Linus Sebastian saying that XMP is broken my overclocking spirits are up and I need your input. I think I'm just struggling with my bios settings with voltage settings like manual, offset or adaptive. So if anyone has experience around Asus bios settings or overclocking settings in general please do help.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

[Fasauceome]

The thing about manual voltage when applying your own CPU clock speeds is that it lays on extra in case you've got a bad overclocker. Also, when you OC, do you do all core loads the same, or would you make a 4 core different from a 1 core? I tend to not use the sync all cores setup when doing the OC because I know less cores can do better. Leave XMP for last because that's ram and you should see what your CPU can do first.

[Fasauceome]

Also side note, silicone is a soft rubber like substance made from silicon, which is the stuff semiconductors are made of. Just nitpicking.

[phoon]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The thing about manual voltage when applying your own CPU clock speeds is that it lays on extra in case you've got a bad overclocker. Also, when you OC, do you do all core loads the same, or would you make a 4 core different from a 1 core? I tend to not use the sync all cores setup when doing the OC because I know less cores can do better. Leave XMP for last because that's ram and you should see what your CPU can do first.

So what voltage setting should I use? How should I go about overclocking cores individually.

[Jurrunio]

hard to say if your 6700k sucks if you dont mention the actual OC resutls

[phoon]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

hard to say if your 6700k sucks if you dont mention the actual OC resutls

Not stable on 4.6

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, robinhood22 said:

Not stable on 4.6

how much voltage? Also is the cooler strong enough?

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

So what voltage setting should I use? How should I go about overclocking cores individually.

I'm just gonna throw a random value out there I would do myself, 4.4GHz all cores with 1.23 volts.

[phoon]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

how much voltage? Also is the cooler strong enough?

1.35 V and the cooler is a Corsair 100i v2 AiO

[phoon]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

I'm just gonna throw a random value out there I would do myself, 4.4GHz all cores with 1.23 volts.

Is 4.4 really worth the overclock I was thinking more 4.6 to 4.8 or am I setting my sights too high?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, robinhood22 said:

Is 4.4 really worth the overclock I was thinking more 4.6 to 4.8 or am I setting my sights too high?

If it's not stable, it's not stable. All core turbo without oc is like 4.2 so I'd say it's at least a slightly decent uptick.

[phoon]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

If it's not stable, it's not stable. All core turbo without oc is like 4.2 so I'd say it's at least a slightly decent uptick.

Alright seems reasonable thank you for your time man!

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

1.35 V and the cooler is a Corsair 100i v2 AiO

1.35v as checked by software (say HWinfo's sensor mode) during stress testing in Windows? Just because you typed in 1.35v doesnt mean it's getting 1.35v, you still need to adjust loadline calibration.

[phoon]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1.35v as checked by software (say HWinfo's sensor mode) during stress testing in Windows? Just because you typed in 1.35v doesnt mean it's getting 1.35v, you still need to adjust loadline calibration.

Ok I see I'll try that out thanks a bunch man.

[phoon]

13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

1.35v as checked by software (say HWinfo's sensor mode) during stress testing in Windows? Just because you typed in 1.35v doesnt mean it's getting 1.35v, you still need to adjust loadline calibration.

Hey mini update I opened up HWinfo and said that I got the 1.3V that i set it at but i just updated the bios and used the ez tuning utility from asus. It auto tuned it at 4.6 Ghz and 1.3v max temps 80C.

 

thanks again

[maartendc]

14 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

Hey mini update I opened up HWinfo and said that I got the 1.3V that i set it at but i just updated the bios and used the ez tuning utility from asus. It auto tuned it at 4.6 Ghz and 1.3v max temps 80C.

 

thanks again

You should still test to see if it is fully stable though. Those "auto tuning" utilities don't do a great job of that I think.

 

Stress test it with Prime95 and Aida64. See if you get any errors.

[phoon]

54 minutes ago, maartendc said:

You should still test to see if it is fully stable though. Those "auto tuning" utilities don't do a great job of that I think.

 

Stress test it with Prime95 and Aida64. See if you get any errors.

yeah youre right I tested prime95 and its perfectly fine. Thanks for your concern!

[phoon]

14 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Also side note, silicone is a soft rubber like substance made from silicon, which is the stuff semiconductors are made of. Just nitpicking.

Hey mini update I opened up HWinfo and said that I got the 1.3V that i set it at but i just updated the bios and used the ez tuning utility from asus. It auto tuned it at 4.6 Ghz and 1.3v max temps 80C. Everything is stable with prime95 and all.

 

Changed the title to silicon as well

 

thanks again

[Turtle Rig]

15 hours ago, robinhood22 said:

Is 4.4 really worth the overclock I was thinking more 4.6 to 4.8 or am I setting my sights too high?

Yes you are.  Be happy with 4.4Ghz stable.  Then later on you can go and see if you can OC more.  That CPU should do 4.6Ghz but ya you lost the lottery man,, soo sorry...  its ok,,, not a big deal your not going to tell a difference from 4.4 to 4.6 especially in games and what not.

[Fasauceome]

50 minutes ago, robinhood22 said:

Hey mini update I opened up HWinfo and said that I got the 1.3V that i set it at but i just updated the bios and used the ez tuning utility from asus. It auto tuned it at 4.6 Ghz and 1.3v max temps 80C. Everything is stable with prime95 and all.

 

Changed the title to silicon as well

 

thanks again

All quite good. It's possible the BIOS update fixed some issue, maybe you can go lower than 1.3 volts, worth a shot.

[_Hustler_One_]

My i7 8700k only able to achieve its highest OC 4.9GHz at 1.31v, tried to go 5Ghz from 1.32v - 1.37v with no success. This loser made me want to get the i7 8086K, but its price here is still expensive.

[Jurrunio]

5 hours ago, robinhood22 said:

Hey mini update I opened up HWinfo and said that I got the 1.3V that i set it at but i just updated the bios and used the ez tuning utility from asus. It auto tuned it at 4.6 Ghz and 1.3v max temps 80C.

 

thanks again

80C, that's rather warm for just 1.3v.

[phoon]

5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

80C, that's rather warm for just 1.3v.

I'll have to look into that. These temps are right after I changed the thermal paste. Surprisingly I was getting the same exact temps on stock Intel speeds during stress test no idea why. Maybe because its so worn down after 3 years of use.