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I watched this video by Der8auer a while ago and am fascinated with the idea of using this chemical nickel-plating technique on my laptops heat spreaders and finally be able to use liquid metal paste on them. I also watched his subsequent video, showing his results three months afterwards, and am convinced that, maybe, you need a much thicker nickel-plate to make sure it works properly. So I want to ask if anybody's ever tried it and if they can offer any advice. Thanks.

Since today's the day of the news embargo lift, another der8auer video appeared on YouTube, showing the German professional overclocker managed to oc the Intel i9-7980XE to over 6.1 GHz on all 18 cores, of course only possible through liquid nitrogen cooling on an ASUS Rampage 6 Apex. He and the other overclockers came together for a meet-up in Taiwan at ASUS ROG headquarters and reached some new world records, once again. https://youtu.be/rEdXayoA1Es

German professional overclocker Roman 'der8auer' Bauer managed to configure a THREADRIPPER build with eight SSDs in RAID-0 through two AMD HyperCards with 4x Samsung 960 Pro m.2 NMVe SSDs each on an ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme MoBo, transformed into a four Terabyte RAID with up to 27 Gigabyte (!) read speeds.

Anyone aware of a source that ships the delid die mate 2 to the US and has it in stock? Amazon, ebay, and overclockers.uk list it as out of stock or no longer available.

Hyped about Linus' review of 8700k... new main stream king? what will be AMD's answer?

CaseKing are working with Der8auer to offer pre-binned coffee lake CPUs which have been de-lidded and new TIM applied with guaranteed overclocks of between 5.0 - 5.2 GHz. They have replaced the stock Tim with Thermal Grizzly and also offer variants with custom heat spreaders which have been re machined or are made with new materials such as their 99.9% silver version. All of the improved versions come custom laser etched with either Caseking's or Der8auer's logo. On the downside these CPU's command a hefty price premium of between € 580 - 900. Would you be willing to pay over the odds for a guaranteed overclock? Original article: https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/caseking_are_selling_pre-binned_i7_8700k_cpus_with_custom_99_9_silver_heatspreaders/1

Well, it seems der8auer has had issues with the VRM coolers and single 8 pin connectors on X299 boards. In this video, he shows the VRMs get up to 100°C on the board, as he estimates the VRM modules themselves are probably at TJunction max, and the single 8 pin connectors on PSUs can hit 60°C when overclocking the 10 core models, oops. He blames the manufacturers and Intel, which might be fair, since the launch was moved forward, so watch out if picking an X299 board folks. This probably won't be so much of an issue for normal users with 6 and 8 core units, but if you buy the 10 core chip and clock it to 4.5GHz, there is a chance the cooler on the VRM and power connector might overheat, that really isn't good for high end stuff Update: As was mentioned by a lot of people, and I'd agree mostly, this only effects some lower end boards. Other channels have started testing this and come to difference conclusions, as well as about the single 8 pin connector. Der8auer has yet to respond with an update, even before that he said he'd do further testing. This is also a VRM cooling issue, the VRM's themselves, while they're getting a healty workout, are still very capable of powering the CPUs up to 10 cores at least. UPDATE 2: Der8auer has updated with another video, and more information about his testing and what went wrong. He explains in a lot more details and rebutts some issues some had about the PSU, he used more than one guys, as mentioned in this video, he is still down on the single 8 pin. He also talks about throttling and other issues he has encountered with X299, turns out some reviewers had power limit throttling and that is why some didn't see the larger power usage and heat. I use ROG boards and I have my settings to 140% for my i7 7700K, so it's not uncommon for overclockers to do this.

Asus has responded to Der8auer's X299 VRM issue by changing its heatsink design on their Asus X299 Apex. The original design was just a solid block, and the new has slits cut into it, allowing air flow to pass through, just like a heatsink. Other changes are the option to add a cooling fan, although this isn't something new. Their socket 775 motherboard already had this feature back then, where some model will include heatsink cooler, so users can install it and help cool the VRMs. The old heatsink cooler was recommended to be used when running a watercooling kit. Aince cpu water block do not offer any air flow like a air cooler, which might help aid in VRM cooling, so they thought about this issue and decide to design some fan especially for the heatsinks. Here is Der8uer's video on the new heatsink design for the Asus X299 Apex Asus socket 775 heatsink coolers. Because each heatsink design was unique to a specific model. Those heatsink cooler cannot be mounted any Asus boards. e,g, Those heatsink coolers, in the images below, cannot be swapped between the two boards. It will not attach/fit onto the heatsinks. https://www.techpowerup.com/235255/the-vrm-odyssey-asus-redesigns-vrm-heatsink-for-x299-rog-rampage-vi-apex

On caseking.de you now can purchase a delidded, overclocked i7 8700K with 5,2 GHz guaranteed. The IHS and thermal compound are removed and replaced by Conductonaut by Thermal Grizzly and closed up with a custom silver IHS. Cost: 900€, other variants available: https://www.caseking.de/der8auer-core-i7-8700k-5-2-ghz-ultra-edition-cpbu-162.html Source: https://www.golem.de/news/core-i7-8700k-ultra-edition-overclocking-cpu-mit-silber-ihs-und-fluessigmetall-1710-130523.html

I was watching Gamers Nexus' newest video with der8auer discussing thermal compounds and misconceptions behind them. Der8auer snapped and addressed the whole air bubble Mandela effect circling around the thermal compound application discussion. Timestampes included: Steve even backed up der8auer by saying that if there were air bubbles, then there'd be no point to even applying thermal compound in the first place. Personally as a spreader, and someone who avidly uses Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, that I can back it up that spreading doesn't degrade thermal performance nor does it create any sort of bubble effect. What does everyone else think about the air bubble discussion? Video:

This product was teased a few months back by Der8auer in a video with GamersNexus. Carbonaut is a thermal pad similar to the IC Graphite Thermal Pad that we have seen from Innovation Cooling. But it is claimed by Der8auer to be more optimised and to perform about as well as an average to low performance thermal paste and better than IC's Graphite Thermal Pads. The one advantage to these carbon/graphite sheets is that they don't have to be replaced meaning they are ideal for graphics cards and applications where a lot of disassembly is required such as in laptops also they don't degrade over time like thermal paste does. However, thermal paste such as Thermal Grizzly's Kryonaut performs much better, but this is the choice that consumers have: Do they want better performance for overclocking and testing or peace of mind knowing they don't have the change their thermal paste on their components most likely for the lifetime of the graphics card or processor. I can't wait to get my hands on this so I never have to replace the thermal paste on my gfx card again. This thermal pad is now on sale from many retailers (which are listed on Thermal Grizzly's website EDIT: Though it looks like its only available as a preorder currently) and has been tested by a couple of people so far, namely ScienceStudio, ToroTocho reviews and Der8auer himself. ScienceStudio Toro Tocho Reviews Der8auer Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/thermal-grizzly-carbonaut.828413/ This was only site online that I could find any discussion on sadly. No major sites had any topic relating to this.

Linus needs to step up his cooling game... I want this just with a lots of red instead of green. note to mods. i was super torn if this was suppose to go in Cooling or Video Cards... its from Nvidia so i decided on Video Cards

Dear tech fanatics, I'm going to build a PC in a week and I'm going to use the i5-8600k der8auer advanced edition. I want to use an AiO but which one is good enough? I'm probably gonna overclock it to 5GHz with 1,35V. I have around 100 euros (Netherlands) to spend. Thanks in advance.

We have some new stuff from professional Overclocker der8auer from Germany - a preview video of the upcoming 32-core Threadripper 2990X CPU using the EPYC 7601. Enjoy the video with hitting over 5k points in Cinebench R15:

It's undeniable that we are lacking mostly on Single Core CPU Power, rather than GPU power. Der 8auer stated lately in an interview, that there will be some exciting new Technology coming at the end of the year addressing that issue. Der8auer said about gaming PC's: "We need higher clock rates, more efficiency, we do not need more cores". He argues that manufacturers should instead focus on performance and efficiency, IPC increases (Instructions per Clock). Hartung (Der8auer's last name) says that 5 GHz per core is the goal, but then it should be over. He says that the clock frequency is not the most important factor, but the efficiency of the architecture. Here he mysteriously referred to interesting hardware that is expected for the end of the year, but wanted or could not tell what exactly that is. [source: winfuture.de/news,103875.html ] Have you got any Info about what he's was talking about?

So looks like AMD has now taken the record for both Single and Dual Socket, at least for the time being. Der8auer was able to reach a maximum clock of 4.04GHz on 2x Epyc 7601 32 Core Processors for a score of 10535. Oh note, it's a novec cooled sever rack and it's going to be shown at Gamescom! Personally I think this is some next level shit, he mentions it almost beating a quad socket score at some point as well. I can't wait to see what he does with Epyc 2

So I was browsing the interwebs, as you do, and came across a der8auer (the guy who makes delidding tools) product I hadn't heard of before. It's a pre-delidded, overclocked 8700k with a fancy IHS installed. https://www.caseking.de/en/der8auer-core-i7-8700k-5-1-ghz-ultra-edition-cpbu-161.html And it's €700. Which is ridiculous. So here's what you get- A factory overclock A fancy, laser-engraved copper IHS A presumably cherry-picked CPU. What the hell? Can anyone think of any plausible reason to buy this over a delidding kit, some liquid metal, and a copper ihs? Hell, you could buy TWO 8700ks and use the best one if you're worried about the silicon lottery. Anyone willing to buy Intel's flagship consumer cpu is most likely willing to do all this themselves. The product seems worth a Linus roasting to me.

Update as of 21/6: Starting to build up the new thread for the system to compare this against, the older brother to the Killer Panda. Go check it out here ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 24/5-18 13:19 (sorry for the delay) FINISHED PICTURES, LETS REVEL THIS PANDA! A big thanks for everyone showing an interest in this build, it's been a long journey and it does not stop here, I'm still not done with the closet to put it in or the new desk setup, so will do some little updates as that comes along to. But the main attraction is done: It's a really really tight fit to make everything I wanted possible in this case, but I did it! Bonus beauty shot: My re-made GPU cooler and active m.2 cooler is both working like a dream That slim 15mm fan was a really good idea, on top of a AquaComputer Kryo M2 Everything from my extended PSU mount, to my external EPS cables and my tons of fans are blending in pretty neatly IMO. If I had not made a long build log about it, then you would probably not have a clue about all the work I have gone trough, I have exchanged every screw and pop rivet in the case, painted, put vinyl, drilled and more on all surfaces. It was already a very rare and unique case to begin with, now even more so. And now, the killer panda! The really strong sunlight played monkey tricks on me, it is red and black, not orange, will try and get better pictures indoors another day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Desktop update! This is the front logo seen from indoor light, more like how it looks in real life. The black aluminum and black vinyl is almost the same tone, so it's only in very specific angles and light conditions that the panda is visible, it's a shy animal. The closet setup at the spot it was intended to be right from the start. You can also kind of see the 3x ML140 Pro white light fans there suck air up to the upper compartment, where the other 2x ML140 fans are placed on the inside of the air ducts - with the help of the 2x ML120 inside the ducts to draw the hot air out. Works better than I could have hoped for actually, at idle the CPU is staying around 40C with a very warm room temp of 27C because of summer. Tried to take pictures so you can see the helping mirrors, they are mostly for a purpose other than *bling*, but actually they are more useful when the system it not finally installed and the system can be pushed around a little, as I can way better look behind it and inside it, to see if everything is installed the way I intended it. Remember, it is a closet after all, there is really limited space and I have to stand on something to reach there, so to get all the help I can i.e. to plug in a cable behind, that is a huge bonus. Speaking of mirrors, I did the same behind my big a$$ monitor. Here it's slightly easier to show you what the purpose is. I can see the inputs! Looks like this from the front, the "bubble" at the end of the table is my brand new Hue Go lamp that I just picked up, am charging it now to play around with tomorrow. Same setup looks something like this at brighter light. Sorry for the colors, my camera and indoor light is not the best combo so tried to compensate in post process and ended up at this. From another angle If you wonder why I have 2 keyboards, then the wireless Logitech one is connected to 2 machines below the table, where I'm also hiding my music DAC I use for well yea, music, and right now my surround headset is plugged into one of the machines, my "Mini3" i3 based tiny magnetized PC that can carry it's own weight under one of the desk shelves. The other one is an even lower powered Linux machine only used to browse the web on, if I don't need any power for anything extra, build both of them out of scrap parts I had laying around from other builds that are worth too little to sell but are too good to throw away. I'm trying to keep it pretty clean with no visible cables under the desk, mainly because my son loves to stay under there when I play games, so he can watch a movie or sleep. Stay tuned if interested in a last update about the numbers of this PC, all the specs and benchmarks. Cheers m8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL POST: I have for now the better part of 3 months been trying to plan out what to do to re-build my gaming PC. It's about time to start logging it as work is now underway. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interruption: As of 20/5-2018 I can now foresee the future and put a deadline on the build: The Big Reveal Deadline Thursday 24th of May at 12:00 midday (GMT+1) Danish Time (I'm from Denmark) I am still not sponsored by anyone, or have anyone help with building it, it's all my own doing and there is a ton of parts, so assembly is not super quick, sorry. More than 16.000 people have seen the 4 threads there is showing of this work: Bit-tech.net Overclock.net Tweak.dk Linus Tech Tips Back to the original program.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A little story first, I build my first PC when I was 10, so I have 20+ years of hobby experience in building and using computers. I'm not a IT pro by any means, I work in a total different area of expertise as my daily job. I currently have 7 desktops and 3 laptops, all purpose builds for the tasks they need to do. This one is my primary PC, my gaming PC. I reside in Denmark, northern Europe, and here specialized hardware like the things I would like to use, usually cost more than other places and is hugely difficult to get your hands on, so I might not use the exact same components as you would, because I can't get them here or can't afford them. Because of that last fact, keep in mind I don't speak English natively, but it does help me I have lived in multiple countries and have a African wife who I'm speaking English with daily. This is not going to be a quick build, I do have a family with two little kids and a lot of things to attend to. The panda is my favorite animal, its starting to be quite rare, its usually calm and its neutral colored - that's going to be a bit of a theme here for this build, not overly much but a bit. Lets get on with it! The build so far looks like this, a full on mess, as parts are starting to get chosen, ordered and delivered. As you can kind of see in the picture, the PC is inside a closet, as I really hate noise and I want it locked away when I'm not home in case of theft (I have one time had a break in and now since then fortified my house, as I don't even want to tempt a thief ever again). It looks a bit like this: I'm an Sketchup addict, I admit that. So for months I have tried to plan out the build by spending many many hours drawing up parts. Now I have kind of given up and just order the things I know I want and hopefully my idea will come to life. This is the only parts im perfectly sure of how to fit in my case, the CPU block, the radiator, fans, motherboard and gpu. The rest will be figured out as they arrive. The parts as of now: Asus Maximus Code X Z370 motherboard Intel i5 8600K Der8auer Advanced Edition CPU 16 (2x8) GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2400MHz CL10 RAM Zotac Amp Extreme GTX 1070 graphics card Corsair Force MP500 120GB NVME SSD for boot 500 GB backup HDD for live recovery drive (in case I tinker too much and something wacks up) 1TB WD Black for games, 2,5inch drive (because its way quieter than the 3,5inch version and still really awesome) Corsair ML120 120mm fans (right now its a pair of 140 on my prolimatech cooler, but will of course be removed when I have the CPU block, I have a tower of Corsair ML fans laying around). Phanteks 120mm Halos Lux fan frames HW Labs Nemesis GTS 240 white radiator (not installed yet) EVGA SuperNova G2 750watt Gold PSU Koolance 702 coolant (not installed yet) All sorts of wire extensions to make it pretty. A panda sticker A blood spatter sticker Bamboo tape When I assembled it as of now in the temporary state, it hit pcpartpicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/h929TW I have a pump, top and housing on the way in the mail from UK and a Alphacool reservoir from Germany also on the way. Fittings to be determined, same as tubes, block I want a heatkiller IV Pro but have not ordered it yet.