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  1. im wondering if i need a radiator for my build ryzen 5 2600x msi b450 tomahawk max evga geforce rtx 2060 ko ultra gaming phanteks p350x 3 rosewill hyperborea 89.5 cfm pwm 140mm(2 in front, 1 on top, default case fan at rear) if u think i need a radiator, pls reccomend me one how much does a radiator improve temperatures?
  2. How many radiator does the Praxis WetBenchSX Complete Edition support https://www.primochill.com/products/praxis-wetbenchsx-complete-edition?_pos=1&_sid=86004b9ea&_ss=r
  3. hi. anyone here have any experience with Fractal Design Define 7 XL? I'm trying to piece together a new build and would like to use the Define 7 XL, but I'm wondering if it will fit with an EK PE480 in the top and an EK PE360 in the front together. The specs lists the maximum radiator sizes as 480 in the top and also 480 in the front, but would love to put 2 rads in. I also have the EK PE360 in my current build that I would like to transfer to this new build. Other option I'm considering is EK CE420 in the top and a EK CE420 in the front if that fits (otherwise an EK 280 in the front)
  4. Hello fellow PC Enthusiasts! I decided to share my experience with you guys concerning Radiator placement in a Custom Waterloop. Ive been searching a pretty long time now but every1 is just talking about a single Radiator or an AIO, and i havent found any information regarding multiple Radiators inside a "standard" ATX case. Im currently running a 3600X compared with a Vega 64 (LC BIOS) in a single loop, which we all know is a pretty power hungry and hot graphics card. Case: Fractal R6 Watercooling Parts: Phobya DC12-400 Pump Alphacool Radiators EKWB Supremacy Evo CPU Block Aquacomputer Kryographics Vega 64 Waterblock. At first i was running this configuration: 280x40 Radiator intake Front 360x30 Radiator exhaust Top 1x140 Fan exhaust Back Temperatures under full load (CPU+GPU) after 25min: CPU - 78°C GPU Hotspot - 93°C Water - almost 50°C Pump Speed - 1200 RPM Fan Speed Top - 1350 RPM Fan Speed Front - 1000 RPM. I stopped the workload because the Water Temperature reached 50°C. From all ive seen this is the "standard" or most common configuration if you run a dual Radiator setup. Since we all care about Airflow, we seek to have a little positive pressure inside the case so we can minimize dust buildup. In this scenario i was a bit on the negative side regarding pressure. But it was ok. But after seeing those Temperatures i wondered: Why is my Water Temperature increasing that much with 640mm Radiator surface? I talked to a Physician at my University and he told me that the Top Radiator will have almost no impact on cooling because of the front mounted Radiator. Because of the small delta between Water Temperature and the Air Temperature that is coming out of the Front radiator AND going through the Top Radiator, the cooling performance will be significant lower. I then decided to do another Test configuration: 2x 140mm Fan intake Front 1x 140mm Fan intake Bottom 360x30 Radiator exhaust Top 140x30 Radiator exhaust Back Temperatures under full load (CPU+GPU) after 25min: CPU - ~68°C GPU Hotspot - 79°C Water - 42°C Pump Speed - 1200 RPM Fan Speed Top - 1300 RPM Fan Speed Exhaust - 900 RPM. Air pressure inside the case is stabilized. With a little smoke test i could not detect any gaps sucking Air inside the case. But still - im not very pleased with those numbers. I now ordered another 360x30 Radiator and will try following: 2x 140mm Fan intake Bottom 1x 140x30 exhaust Back 1x 360x30 exhaust Top 1x 360x30 exhaust Front I know that i will be highly on the negative side regarding Case pressure, but its a sacrifice im willing to take to lower my Component temperatures especially the GPU Temperature. I will update this thread once the parts have arrived and i installed them. For now i just wanted to share my experience so far, and tell you that a front mounted radiator is not always the best way to go if you run multiple Radiators inside your case. I will update this thread with new numbers once i get the parts. Edit: spelling.
  5. I want to add a noctua 200 to two 240 full copper radiators using custom mountings. Springs from each corner of the fan to the outer corners of the Radiators with suitable screws to fix it in place. My only concern is about the difference between a one 200 mm fan and four 120 mm fans regarding efficiency. Knowing that: 200mm has a 150 CFM, direct contact area is π x r² » π x 10 = 314 Sq cm 120mm has a 107 CFM, direct contact area of four fans is 4 x π x r² = 452 Sq cm I just multiplied the CFM by the area affected to determine the difference between both methods: 200mm ». 150 CFM x 314 Sq cm = 47100 4 x120mm »107 CFM x 452 Sq cm = 48364 I don't know what are the final numbers but i think that they determine the difference between two methods.. Are my calculations correct? If they were correct then there will be no difference regarding cooling performance. But way less noise with the big fan and probably a better performance in real life, plus the easier control with just one cable and less power consumption of course. Thank you for reading and answering Please see the image provided
  6. Hello there, I'm in the process of nailing down a spec for a watercooling build, and I wanted to get some more experienced water-coolers perspectives on this: Considering I will likely be having a 280mm radiator (45mm thick) at the top of the case with fans, and no rear fan. At the front - would you put a: 1) A Thin 26mm thick, 240mm radiator sandwiched by 4 x 120mm fans or 2) A Thicker 38mm thick, 240mm radiator with 2 x 120mm fans on one side? My initial thoughts are: Option 1 would provide better all-round cooling of things like the motherboard components due to higher airflow, however potentially less cooling compared to Option 2 for the CPU and GPU. and Option 2 could provide better cooling of the CPU and GPU at the expense of cooling to other components like the motherboard. What do you think? do you have a better idea? The computers basic components: - Intel i7-6700K - MSI Z170 Mortar Motherboard - EVGA GTX 1070 FTW - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mATX case Other conisderations - All fans involved are Static Pressure - CPU and GPU will have mild overclocks - The PC is aimed to be quiet - The case can only support a MAX. 240mm radiator at the front
  7. A couple of days ago I set my custom loop up with a 480mm rad/xspc single 420lph combo/rasystorm pro but the fans that came with the radiator are 3 pin and I have them plugged into a 4 to 1 connector since there isn't enough fan connectors on my mobo. I want to buy 4x pwm fans and i'm looking for 120mm (either gentle typhoon or noctua f12 industrial) but I want it to be a curve depending on heat but i'm not sure how to go about that since the fans in the radiator are running 100% all the time which is sort of annoying. Iv'e come from a h100i where the fan speeds were controlled automatically by corsair link
  8. Made this external radiator as a common radiator for the 3 rigs in my office, I plan to make a larger one that is fitted to my window to vent the heat out (I live in South Australia, we just had 2 weeks of 40C Celsius heat) As an obsessive tinkerer I'm heavily experimenting with water cooling at the moment, as cheap as possible. This was made from recycled parts (Besides clamps) It is mounted in a cantilever style so the arm does not block airflow from the off-centered fan. The way the copper piping is designed allows you to section off the radiator which I will be doing further down the track to isolate the loops and assist with pressure. At the moment its a two in two out config, it has dropped my reservoir temps across the machines between 20-30 Celsius, with fan running at just 5v, the temps drop a further 5 -10 Celsius at the full 12v. Just looking for some ideas, feedback, or if anyone has any experience or experimented with anything like this? Parts: Radiator from busted A/C unit. Dell Monitor Stand Corsair Fan from old Case Had some black engine spray paint so gave it a coat, after some research I had read black helps with radiator thermal conductivity. Few LEDS cause everything in here has LEDS cause i'm a fiend. Hose clamps ($1.50 each, pretty pricey!)
  9. I was just planning out a build and I thought, if there is enough clearance could I put an RGB light strip behind a radiator (with fans on the other side of course) and would the RGB lighting actually show through? I was planning on using the ThermalTake Core P5 Tempered Glass edition case for this as it has clearance behind the radiator. Think if possible it would look nice? Thanks for opinions.
  10. I'm looking for the thickest radiator possible. I have a normal thickness 360 radiator ( 25mm ish ) in push pull fan configuration. Looking for something around 100mm thick preferably. The case is a corsair 200r if it helps any.
  11. Ok, straight to the parts: The Tower 900, AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, ASUS Crosshair VI Hero, ASUS STRIX 980 Ti 6GB, Corsair AX 860 PSU, Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2 PCIe SSD, Corsair Vengeance LED DDR4 2666MHz 2x16GB. So what I need help whit for now, is figuring out witch fans to go for on the two 560mm slim rads. Also, rad recommendations, and watercooling tips are welcome.
  12. Hey, I have a Lian Li PC-O10 around which I'm planning a custom loop. Other than incremental performance increases and aesthetics, I want to make the system as quiet as possible. There are two locations I can mount dual 120 radiators: on the top and (assuming I'm willing to forego the vertical gpu setup), on the bottom. Given that I will run the fans at low rpm. would it be best to have push-pull with thin rads or push/pull with thick rads? Thanks
  13. Hi There, I'm looking for some advice on some static pressure fans to replace the stock ones for my Kraken X62! The stock ones were crap and the frame snapped on both while mounting them before they were even tight. I don't want to go through the hassle of an RMA just for the stock fans. I'd prefer black, but it's not a big deal since they are mostly hidden by the radiator in the front of the case. I have the X62 mounted in the front of my case because the tubes are way too freaking long to top mount. I have the stock fans still in right now but I'd like to replace them since the frames are broken on both. Currently, the cooler is mounted in the front of the case with the fans mounted in front of the radiator (towards the outside of the case) pulling in air from outside and pushing it into the radiator. I also have 3 x Corsair ML120mm White LED fans in the top of the case exhausting air out as well as 1 x Corsair 140mm White LED in the rear exhausting. If you think this set-up is incorrect and needs revising let me know. My computer specs are listed in my signature but I'm using a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv TG case. I'm hopefully looking for a mixture of performance and quietness but performance is valued higher. The case isn't very quiet as is because of the tempered glass side panels and open design so there's no sound dampening foam so complete silence isn't achievable as is. I have included a picture of my PC as it is now. I'm currently thinking of Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM ?
  14. I noticed that the Corsair C70, the case I use, has mounts on the top for up to 2 140mm fans, however on Corsair's site it lists the case as only having support for up to a 240mm rad on top. Is there any reason I couldn't fit a 280 up there?
  15. I am wondering what the best radiator fan I can get for ~$15 US to replace my cougar fan that already broke. Any suggestions are helpful!
  16. So I have an r9 280x with an h55 but I dont know what I should do because the places to mount the radiator above the gpu wont work because the tubing isnt long enough and the front mounting wont work because there is a hard drive cage preventing me from putting the radiator there. The only options are to mount it on the bottom or on the side, but on the side there isnt enough clearance for both the card and the fan so I would have to mount it on the outside and because of the grill I dont know how much the cooling performance would be degraded. If I mount it on the bottom, There is very little airflow as I am putting it on the ground (the case would lift a little bit above the ground so there would be some airflow) but the fan would be on the radiator. which should I do?
  17. Hi, I have a radiator which is 2x120mm (what I mean is 2x120mm fans next to each other), but my top side of the case (Cosmos 1000) is setup for 2x140mm (with also 120mm holes), which means I can only partially anchor it (as you can imagine given the 120mm spaces are inside the 140mm, there is a gap of 2 cm between the two 120mm slots), Of course this means that when both 120mm fans spin at top speed, it does vibrate a bit. Is there any adaptor which would let me attach 2x140mm and provide holes for contiguous 2x120mm? What would you do? Thanks!
  18. So I tried a lot of things. I tried running 20% vinegar with water, I even tried around FORTY DROPS of muriatic acid along with water. Keep in mind, the drops went directly from a syringe straight into the rad that was about half full of water. The rad is a double 140mm and even after letting the forty drops with water sit for around 7 hours, I was not happy with my results. This is after I attempted a weak vinegar mix, boiling water, a heavier vinegar mix... Improvement was there but way too slow. After all of the above, the first image below was the result. Still tons of discoloration and corrosion... So finally I said F*** IT. I grabbed the jug of acid which has a 29% acidity level, and I just dumped it in... straight. Nothing else. I let it sit for 30 seconds, poured in just a splash of distilled and shook for another 30 seconds... I wish I did this a lot sooner because you can't argue with the results. Previously the liquid was coming out clear or with just a slight blue tint. After the acid bath, it came out black. I'm so happy with the results, but keep in mind, I can easily see this damaging your rad if you're not careful. There's no way it even sat in my rad for more than 2 minutes. I imagine this could easily eat a hole in one of the copper walls if you're not on top of it. Here is the before and after. Keep in mind, the before is still AFTER I tried vinegar, boiling water, and drops of acid with not much success.
  19. Hey guys, I've got a Fractal Design S36 (360mm) AIO. I am planning on getting a EKWB loop for my PC. I have heard that the radiator used on the S36 can be reused? If this is the case would I need some special fittings, or would the ones EKWB sell fit?
  20. I'm planning to do a black and white watercooling loop and I'm thinking of getting the Aerocool Dead Silence White fans since I like their look. I'm reading mixed reviews about the quality of these fans though. I'll be using them (probably) on a HW Labs GTS 240 and 360 radiator. Are they ok or am I really better off with something else? What are your experiences thoughts about these fans?
  21. Hello I tried to mount my radiator to the top of my case but the screw was too long and it drooped and wouldn't screw all the way in. It's in a push pull config now with 2 125mm fans on either side. But I want just the radiator to be screwed in to the case and the fans on top of it. I have no idea where to look what kind of screws will fit??
  22. I have flushed my rads with a solution of 90% water 10% vinegar about 20 times and it is still flushing out particles. Radiators is an ekwb se 360, I have never had this happen before so I am not sure what to do? Any suggestions Thanks
  23. Hi guys. I currently have a Define C and planning to watercool my PC. Want to go with EK kits that they sell, the Performance series with the Coolstream CE rad. I like the silent side of things and just wanted to go with a dual fan rad instead of a triple fan (360 rad). Also I really like the size of the Define C, but unfortunately there is no space for me in the front to mount the rad and the fans not to mention the length of my MSI 1080TI. Any case in this size that could accommodate the 280rad and the GPU with this length? Thanks
  24. Hey there, What information can you guys give me about the Concept Slate? It's my new dream Custom Loop case, replacing the Enthoo Elite as my top case. I know it's insane radiator support but is there any extra information you can give me about it? Cheers, Icarus
  25. I am planning a new build and I am stuck deciding between either having 1x480 radiator or 2x240 radiators. I will be cooling an i7 7700k and 1x1080. I had originally thought to use 2x240 and have the cpu after one radiator and the gpu after the other radiator. My question is: how much of a difference in temps will I see if I run 1x480 radiator to the gpu then to cpu? Thanks for the help
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