Chaotixblade

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The fire in this thread has been quenched.
 
It's not even on topic now.
 
/Thread

I'm Just here for the comments again...

I feel sorry for using Adblocks, but I remove it sometimes when I think my speeds are boosted. You see, living in PH is one hell of a turd, we even got the slowest internet around SEA Countries, so to watch your shows properly (especially the long ones like WAN Show), I need to block it(sometimes). But dont fret, I've spread your channel to other friends to watch your shows (and they don't even know about adblock). Shhh.

Linus,
 
I respect you an infinitely large amount. You and TekSyndicate are my favorite youtube channels,
 
That said. I do believe you are in the wrong here. Please hear me out. If I get banned for speaking the truth, that is fine, I'll move along. As life always does.
 
I'm sorry, but the definition of self entitled does not extend to watching you-tube videos for free without having to experience the atrocious and elongated advertising that is showcased there.
 
Self entitlement is... Throwing rocks into rich people's cars because you are jealous they have what you don't. It's cussing out (people like you linus) people who are successful because you don't have what they have. It's accepting government welfare checks even when you don't need them because you're sticking it to the man and the rich who are so oppressive.
 
That is self entitled.
 
Me watching a video on a free site while using a tool that blocks advertising that often are offensive to my eye is not.
 
Youtube is not a job.
 
You, Linus, have found a means by which it can be profitable. But that does not make it a job in the common meaning of the terminology. (May I add here that it appears to me that using you-tube as a job is a rather impetuous move. Your livelihood and mortgage payment are predicated upon a medium that could fail at any moment.)
 
I am glad you've found yourself a niche, and are able to provide employment to people as well as employ yourself. But that doesn't give you a right to call people scummy and essentially self-entitled for again using an adblocking tool on a free website.
 
Cliche, but, you don't know me, you don't know the people behind these usernames.
 
It is not remotely fair to call someone scummy for using an ad blocker on you-tube.
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The irony here. If you were to call them full out self entitled, you would be exhibiting the traits of an individual who is self entitled.
 
I, and the youtube community, are not obligated to give you money. Yes, we give you money by watching your ads.
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Also, this is how the free market system works, Linus,
The people don't like the way you run your channel. We go pick a different product, in effect leaving yours.
Individuals have chosen an ad blocker, because we don't like the current option.
We are not obligated to stay, this isn't the USSR.
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Malcontent,
 
Would you care to expound on how my logic is flawed?
 
I made three statements.
 
1. Making youtube the foundation of your company is utterly foolish. -- Please explain to me how it is not. It is as unstable and changes with as much as uncertainty as the wind.
2. I am not obligated to watch his advertising. -- Please explain to me how I am.
3. Linus is being a hypocrit. He is doing what he accused us of doing. -- Please explain to me how he is not.
 
3. Continued -- He claimed we were being self entitled. He is calling HIS FANS scummy for not watching his ads. As if point number 2 is somehow not valid.
 
Which, I think at the root of this ELEVATED ARGUMENT, you disagree with point 2. And because point 3 is based off of point 2, you can understand why we are so diametrically opposed.
 
You are just throwing insults around, sir.
 
When all logic fails, damage control. Start hurling insults. Degrade, deprecate, you cannot win with logic therefore use angry pathos.
 
Consider yourself blocked.
 
[Edit] I am saddened for you that I had to break this down into sections for you to get it.
 
It speaks volumes to your intelligence. (Or apparent lack thereof.)
 
Lastly, claiming one's input is flawed and not backing it up does not constitute a valid retort. Anyone can say someone is wrong, even if all of the world disagrees. You must provide evidence as to why the individual is wrong.
(You don't have to, but it makes you look arrogant, impotent, and incompetent...) 

this is pretty much the only legit reason I've heard for adblock

Debating is an adrenaline rush? It rates pretty close to programming on the excitement level, for me
 
  I thought he put it there intentionally because you violate some adsense policy if you watch ads on your own video or something.

Congrats. I don't even know what to say, which is what you were going for I guess. You win. (Now don't you feel better?) 
 
Edit: Formatting got messed up because I tried to post a reaction gif, but I don't really care enough to fix it. 

I personally find it really annoying that you can't make personal backups of DVDs because of pirates.
 
All you need to copy the movie is a capture card. Any Nvidia GPU these days will do it fine. You probably would want to have a separate audio recording software because the sound comes out weird from shadowplay.

People have no moral obligation whatsoever to be subjected to advertisements.  None.  Zip.  Within the reasonable constraints of this discussion, people are free to view what they want, how they want, within the bounds of the hardware/software.  Of course, content creators are also free to dictate how their content can be accessed, but within the domain of this discussion, that's on a browser(s)/website combo that has easily configurable ad-free viewing.  Linus is free to put all the videos behind, say, a contributor-only wall, and the consumer can choose to subscribe to that or not.  If anything, it's rather fortunate for creators that YouTube allows rather easy monetization options, but the content consumers have no moral, contractual, or legal obligation of any kind towards those creators.

Just did. CUDOS!

I don't claim to be the pinnacle of the community. My sentiments were those shared by a multitude of individuals showcasing their opinions in this very forum.
 
You are on the other side of the fence, you are allowed to be. I intend on doing nothing to change your view.
 
That said, as for me and those who feel similarly. I feel like Linus should respond, he should explain himself.
 
This of course being because my logic is sound. He needs to address the issue more effectively then, "I chose a poor word."
 
No, you are of a flawed ideology. Again, see my earlier rants.
 
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The facts remain..
 
I am not obligated to watch his advertisements.
 
It is foolish to make the foundation of your company on a flimsy medium like you tube.
 
I white list you tube. But if the 10% who don't are causing this many problems. Imagine what will happen when there is a mass exodus to the newest thing. (Myspace -> Facebook)
 
--My argument--

I am completely against advertising,
 
That being said I do not use adblock, and probably never will because:
I'm too lazy to download it and set it up
I don't personally know anyone that uses it so I dont trust it
 
I put up with ads, I click skip when I can, but if I'm not given the option to skip, I will close youtube and go do something else for a few hours so that maybe they get the message (I would encourage others to do the same)
 
Adblock is sort of a crappy thing to do to people I guess, I prefer my old school method, your going to force me to watch the ad? well then I shall take my time and eyeballs elsewhere. I do the same thing in stores that have annoying ass salesmen that try to hard sell you or wont leave you alone, I leave and don't buy anything.
 
Linus outright states how annoying it is to shop for clothes with salesmen lurking around trying to get you to buy things (in his 54 club sponsor blocks), then calls adblock users scummy for not wanting the same thing via youtube? Is forced advertising not the exact same thing Linus? Is it just suddenly ok because it's involving you?
 
The answer is no. Forced advertising and aggressive sales strategems are not, and will never be, acceptable.

Linus,
 
I respect you an infinitely large amount. You and TekSyndicate are my favorite youtube channels,
 
That said. I do believe you are in the wrong here. Please hear me out. If I get banned for speaking the truth, that is fine, I'll move along. As life always does.
 
I'm sorry, but the definition of self entitled does not extend to watching you-tube videos for free without having to experience the atrocious and elongated advertising that is showcased there.
 
Self entitlement is... Throwing rocks into rich people's cars because you are jealous they have what you don't. It's cussing out (people like you linus) people who are successful because you don't have what they have. It's accepting government welfare checks even when you don't need them because you're sticking it to the man and the rich who are so oppressive.
 
That is self entitled.
 
Me watching a video on a free site while using a tool that blocks advertising that often are offensive to my eye is not.
 
Youtube is not a job.
 
You, Linus, have found a means by which it can be profitable. But that does not make it a job in the common meaning of the terminology. (May I add here that it appears to me that using you-tube as a job is a rather impetuous move. Your livelihood and mortgage payment are predicated upon a medium that could fail at any moment.)
 
I am glad you've found yourself a niche, and are able to provide employment to people as well as employ yourself. But that doesn't give you a right to call people scummy and essentially self-entitled for again using an adblocking tool on a free website.
 
Cliche, but, you don't know me, you don't know the people behind these usernames.
 
It is not remotely fair to call someone scummy for using an ad blocker on you-tube.
---
The irony here. If you were to call them full out self entitled, you would be exhibiting the traits of an individual who is self entitled.
 
I, and the youtube community, are not obligated to give you money. Yes, we give you money by watching your ads.
---
Also, this is how the free market system works, Linus,
The people don't like the way you run your channel. We go pick a different product, in effect leaving yours.
Individuals have chosen an ad blocker, because we don't like the current option.
We are not obligated to stay, this isn't the USSR.
--

If Linus even cares about the community at all. He will read my post and respond to it. I got to the crux of the issue, the issue that most were talking about.
 
Linus has accused the community of what he is doing now.
 
We are not obligated to watch his advertising. It is his fault he decided to set his company up on a foundation that can fail as quickly and with as much uncertainty as the wind.
 
I have unsubscribed, unliked, and unfollowed. (I re followed and stuff. I decided I'm not going to stop consuming his content over one likely il-phrased statement.)
 
He has a flawed ideology, and I don't intend on supporting it any longer until I see what he has to say.

Linus,
 
I respect you an infinitely large amount. You and TekSyndicate are my favorite youtube channels,
 
That said. I do believe you are in the wrong here. Please hear me out. If I get banned for speaking the truth, that is fine, I'll move along. As life always does.
 
I'm sorry, but the definition of self entitled does not extend to watching you-tube videos for free without having to experience the atrocious and elongated advertising that is showcased there.
 
Self entitlement is... Throwing rocks into rich people's cars because you are jealous they have what you don't. It's cussing out (people like you linus) people who are successful because you don't have what they have. It's accepting government welfare checks even when you don't need them because you're sticking it to the man and the rich who are so oppressive.
 
That is self entitled.
 
Me watching a video on a free site while using a tool that blocks advertising that often are offensive to my eye is not.
 
Youtube is not a job.
 
You, Linus, have found a means by which it can be profitable. But that does not make it a job in the common meaning of the terminology. (May I add here that it appears to me that using you-tube as a job is a rather impetuous move. Your livelihood and mortgage payment are predicated upon a medium that could fail at any moment.)
 
I am glad you've found yourself a niche, and are able to provide employment to people as well as employ yourself. But that doesn't give you a right to call people scummy and essentially self-entitled for again using an adblocking tool on a free website.
 
Cliche, but, you don't know me, you don't know the people behind these usernames.
 
It is not remotely fair to call someone scummy for using an ad blocker on you-tube.
---
The irony here. If you were to call them full out self entitled, you would be exhibiting the traits of an individual who is self entitled.
 
I, and the youtube community, are not obligated to give you money. Yes, we give you money by watching your ads.
---
Also, this is how the free market system works, Linus,
The people don't like the way you run your channel. We go pick a different product, in effect leaving yours.
Individuals have chosen an ad blocker, because we don't like the current option.
We are not obligated to stay, this isn't the USSR.
--

Linus,
 
I respect you an infinitely large amount. You and TekSyndicate are my favorite youtube channels,
 
That said. I do believe you are in the wrong here. Please hear me out. If I get banned for speaking the truth, that is fine, I'll move along. As life always does.
 
I'm sorry, but the definition of self entitled does not extend to watching you-tube videos for free without having to experience the atrocious and elongated advertising that is showcased there.
 
Self entitlement is... Throwing rocks into rich people's cars because you are jealous they have what you don't. It's cussing out (people like you linus) people who are successful because you don't have what they have. It's accepting government welfare checks even when you don't need them because you're sticking it to the man and the rich who are so oppressive.
 
That is self entitled.
 
Me watching a video on a free site while using a tool that blocks advertising that often are offensive to my eye is not.
 
Youtube is not a job.
 
You, Linus, have found a means by which it can be profitable. But that does not make it a job in the common meaning of the terminology. (May I add here that it appears to me that using you-tube as a job is a rather impetuous move. Your livelihood and mortgage payment are predicated upon a medium that could fail at any moment.)
 
I am glad you've found yourself a niche, and are able to provide employment to people as well as employ yourself. But that doesn't give you a right to call people scummy and essentially self-entitled for again using an adblocking tool on a free website.
 
Cliche, but, you don't know me, you don't know the people behind these usernames.
 
It is not remotely fair to call someone scummy for using an ad blocker on you-tube.
---
The irony here. If you were to call them full out self entitled, you would be exhibiting the traits of an individual who is self entitled.
 
I, and the youtube community, are not obligated to give you money. Yes, we give you money by watching your ads.
---
Also, this is how the free market system works, Linus,
The people don't like the way you run your channel. We go pick a different product, in effect leaving yours.
Individuals have chosen an ad blocker, because we don't like the current option.
We are not obligated to stay, this isn't the USSR.
--

You're so right . I guess I'l just leave this thread be for a few days, it's getting on my nerves more than I would like and I'm afraid it's showing in my posts.

Also, once again. I like macs, my stance is simply they are not cost effective. I harbor no hatred for those that like them. I like 'em too. My musician uncle uses them all the time.

People argue on forums, that's the main purpose of them. Again, I disagree on what you said and please don't tell me I'm wrong without showing me where, that's destructive critic. constructive critic means showing me my mistake so I can correct it. If I'm not worth your time then you could have kept the first comment to yourself. Do as you like, I have expressed my opinion on both the thread's topic and on your "accusations".
 
 
 
Have you seen my post on the matter? I think you'd like it

Just for you guys. I've decided to buy 15 macs to put in one of my 100% custom computer stores for my employees to use.
 
OMG SO MUCH MONEY BECAUSE KIDS ARE WHINEY.
 
 
Know what my guys will say? AWESOME NEW TOYS and not a single thing about price or performance because real computer guys don't give a shit if it's a mac or a custom machine. It's a feat of engineering that I remember 20 years ago was extremely limited. 
 
Not every single person wants to upgrade a computer. The people buying both spectrum of computers have totally different ideas of what a computer should be.

Eh, work can wait.
 
Its not obvious to me, and I am sure there are others who feel similarly.
 
Provide some proof. Otherwise your someone who makes grandiose assertions and doesn't even attempt to back them up.
 
Claims like yours do well in the political field where one liners sway the sheep that govern by virtue of voting. People here, like myself, are rational thinkers. Your unsupported claims don't hold any water.

I disagree, sorry. Can you quote some examples of where i insulted someone without having been provoked by him? If I did I'm sorry, I always try to be as neutral to people as possible when I'm arguing, unless they put it on the insult level first.