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GTX 770 & R9 380

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So I bought an R9 380 4GB MSI back in October last year for €240, and while wanting to build a budget Mini-ITX PC I got a Palit GTX 770 2GB for €139 off of Ebay. I ran Unigine Valley benchmark and these are the results from both cards. Like how the hell? This is just an example of one benchmark, I've tested several games which I play myself and the 770 still holds the best FPS. Sooooo RIP €100?

 

(I'm running Windows 10, not Windows 8!)

 

770 Run 1:

 

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770 Run 2:

 

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Average: 47.75 FPS

 

R9 380 Run 1:

 

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R9 380 Run 2:

 

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Average: 37.3 FPS

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Something is not right the 380 should be more powerful..

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Something is not right the 380 should be more powerful..

 

"Should Be", I know. But it's not in nearly all cases.

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Something is not right the 380 should be more powerful..

Nope.

 

@alanp1995 Those scores are correct. There are other factors that make the 380 perform better than the 770 today, but at a base level, the 770 is more powerful.

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"Should Be", I know. But it's not in nearly all cases.

Comparing my 690 (dual 680s aka 770s) to a system @kb_direwolf built with a 380 my 690 performs exactly double

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My 580 is faster LOL with a CPU bottleneck.

 

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r9 380 has more vram though , and that will definitely help. Also , expecting nvidia to keep supporting kepler ( especially if you look at how kepler is doing now)  is kind of pointless. Not to mention you are talking new vs used.

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r9 380 has more vram though , and that will definitely help. Also , expecting nvidia to keep supporting kepler ( especially if you look at how kepler is doing now)  is kind of pointless. Not to mention you are talking new vs used.

 

It does have more VRAM but I pushed the 770 to 2.9GB VRAM usage on GTA V and it still performed perfectly. 2GB is plenty for 1080p gaming. New vs. Used doesn't really matter, performance is what we looking at.

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Nope.

 

@alanp1995 Those scores are correct. There are other factors that make the 380 perform better than the 770 today, but at a base level, the 770 is more powerful.

 

Other factors being? :)

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Other factors being? :)

Driver support, updated architecture that works better in modern games like tessellation performance and better compression. Unigine is based on the very early barebones days of dx11 so it doesn't take any of these things into account. The 380 also beats the 7970/280x in a few games because of this too.

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770 has more brute power but 380 is more modern and can use fancy tricks to make it work better in new games! :)

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1500+ Valley score is what my old 7950 get at 850mhz, does the clock speed throttled?

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You should run valley without ulps.

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That's not normal. My 280 gets 1650 at stock. 380 is superior to a 280. Check for throttling, reinstall drivers.

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Something is not right the 380 should be more powerful..

The R9 380 is pretty close to the Radeon HD 7950. The GTX 770 is more comparable to the HD 7970/R9 280X/R9 380X. The R9 380 is just plain slower, always has been.

 

That said I have no idea if 1562 is a good score for an R9 380, but the GTX 770 should be ahead.

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The R9 380 is pretty close to the Radeon HD 7950. The GTX 770 is more comparable to the HD 7970/R9 280X/R9 380X. The R9 380 is just plain slower, always has been.

 

That said I have no idea if 1562 is a good score for an R9 380, but the GTX 770 should be ahead.

you forget about driver improvwments

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you forget about driver improvwments

 

Driver improvements might have allowed the R9 380 to pick up a few frames of the deficit, but I certainly haven't seen any benchmarks showing it ahead of a GTX 770. If you can show that, I'd be interested in seeing it.

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The R9 380 is pretty close to the Radeon HD 7950. The GTX 770 is more comparable to the HD 7970/R9 280X/R9 380X. The R9 380 is just plain slower, always has been.

 

That said I have no idea if 1562 is a good score for an R9 380, but the GTX 770 should be ahead.

 

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Techpowerup's performance summary shows the 380 ahead though... So I'm not sure how much more the 380 should perform.

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-snip-

 

Techpowerup's performance summary shows the 380 ahead though... So I'm not sure how much more the 380 should perform.

A couple of the games they used literally crippled 2GB cards hence lower overall TPU performance score.

 

LANOC R9-380 get the same FPS as OP in Valley Extreme HD

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The reference 780 is 50% faster in Valley compare to 380 but in real gaming load..

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The 780 was barely 10% faster except in Grid Autosport because AMD cards is single threaded in that game.

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A couple of the games they used literally crippled 2GB cards hence lower overall TPU performance score.

 

LANOC R9-380 get the same FPS as OP in Valley Extreme HD

 

The reference 780 is 50% faster in Valley compare to 380 but in real gaming load..

The 780 was barely 10% faster except in Grid Autosport because AMD cards is single threaded in that game.

 

So... Optimized for games but not benchmarks... Classic AMD. 

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So... Optimized for games but not benchmarks... Classic AMD. 

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