6700k vs 4790k

[Krotchkoman]

Hello everyone! First post here. Little bit of background, I am an avid pc user and builder, and I am prepping to do my next build within the next 3 to 6 months. I have already picked up a 750w power supply, and I'm getting ready to pick up my case, but I'm hung up on which processor and motherboard I'm going to purchase.

 

Most of what I do is gaming on my PC, and I like to stream my raids (World of warcraft, what a nerd) so that we can go back and rewatch to check for our mistakes. I also play a lot of the newer titles like Witcher 3, soon I'll be playing the new MGS, and I really like to push my system to the max when I can. My current setup is as follows:

 

i5-3570k 3.40GHz 4-core Processor

EVGA Nvidia 660 Superclocked

12GB DDR3 (I don't remember what speed, it's slow) RAM

 

All the rest doesn't matter, it's no-name garbage on a mini atx board.

 

Finally, time to talk Processors. I'm definitely set on getting an intel processor, because I am not impressed with AMDs recent chipsets, although if we have any fanboys with legitimate arguments, I'm more than happy to consider them. A lot of the new processors have been focused on lower clock speeds and more cores, which I really won't need. I'm currently looking at either the LGA 1150 4790k, which clocks at 4.0GHz, or the 1151 6700k, which also clocks at 4.0GHz, but supports DDR4 RAM. I'm torn, because the price difference is $80, which is nothing to sneeze at, for nearly identical performance. Is it worth me diving into the world of DDR4 in preparations for the eventual price changes? Will the 1151 socket be the primary intel socket in the future, or will they return to 1150? I'm torn because at the moment DDR4 ram is so much more expensive unless you get something small, like 16GB. Not to mention there is a lot more motherboard competition for the 1150 socket. 

 

So tell me. Why should I get one or the other? I know that the 6700k features a built-in turbo, but is it even noticeable? Help me choose!

[SirWendall]

Not really. 4790K isn't a huge upgrade to a 6700k.

[Nonco]

You will also be paying more for DDR4, and the 1151 mobo. Just go with the 4790K. Get a better GPU also if you want to play newer AAA titles.

[i_build_nanosuits]

i would do even better than that, i would get an i7-3770K if you need more threads to stream your games...re-use motherboard and RAM...if you are for some reasons very determined to leave socket 1155 then i would go to 4790K and re-use your RAM...if it keep going like that CPU in the future when it comes to gaming will keep getting less and less relevant anyways...i would even argue that your current i5-3570K with a slight overclock is all you'll need for a few more years for gaming...your GPU is quite weak though and i think if i was you i would just upgrade the graphics card to something more powerful such as a GTX 970/980 or a radeon R9 390/390X for example.

 

RAM speed and DDR3 vs DDR4 is completely irrelevant to gaming performance when using a dedicated GPU just so you know.

itx vs ATX also irrelevant...itx is not overclocking friendly though but for a slight bump it will be fine.

 

i would set your CPU multiplier to 40 and trow in a GTX 970 and call it a day if i was you.

[Krotchkoman]

i would do even better than that, i would get an i7-3770K if you need more threads to stream your games...re-use motherboard and RAM...if you are for some reasons very determined to leave socket 1155 then i would go to 4790K and re-use your RAM...if it keep going like that CPU in the future when it comes to gaming will keep getting less and less relevant anyways...i would even argue that your current i5-3570K with a slight overclock is all you'll need for a few more years for gaming...your GPU is quite weak though and i think if i was you i would just upgrade the graphics card to something more powerful such as a GTX 970/980 or a radeon R9 390/390X for example.

 

RAM speed and DDR3 vs DDR4 is completely irrelevant to gaming performance when using a dedicated GPU just so you know.

itx vs ATX also irrelevant...itx is not overclocking friendly though but for a slight bump it will be fine.

 

i would set your CPU multiplier to 40 and trow in a GTX 970 and call it a day if i was you.

I'm definitely doing a full system upgrade, I would like to run a full atx and ditch the old chipset, since the difference in price between a 3770k and a 4790k is so close, despite the (relatively) big performance gap. As for RAM, I know it won't really help with gaming, but I have to look forward for my whole system. We will eventually move away from DDR3 RAM... I'm just not sure when. I am interested in the idea of overclocking, although I am on a standard cooler, with standard case fans, so it may be a dangerous proposition. I'm super inexperienced with overclocking, considering I've never touched the beast. I'm definitely down to learn more in the meantime though. Could definitely help out. I would only really need it for 3-4 hours of extended gaming.

 

You will also be paying more for DDR4, and the 1151 mobo. Just go with the 4790K. Get a better GPU also if you want to play newer AAA titles.

My issue is that when I take a look during running something like the Witcher 3... my CPU is running at 100% capacity, while my GPU is hanging out around 80%. I certainly plan on upgrading the GPU, but my CPU is getting destroyed with only 4 cores. Not to say that my GPU isn't a problem, but it isn't currently the biggest holdback.

 

 

I do want to make a note that my current plan in the build is to eventually pick up a 980 or a 980 ti, but I'll look at those options later. The processor is my biggest bottleneck in starting the build (and in my current build) so I want to get that out of the way first, since World of Warcraft is one of the games I play most, and is almost entirely CPU-based, so I could run 4 titan X cards in my system and see no improvement in the way that World of Warcraft runs.

[PricelessNight]

yeah for me the cpu's aren't much of a difference but you will be paying a decent amount for ddr4. That being said if you can afford ddr4 then you should go with the 6700k.

[Pooherino ツ]

Hello everyone! First post here. Little bit of background, I am an avid pc user and builder, and I am prepping to do my next build within the next 3 to 6 months. I have already picked up a 750w power supply, and I'm getting ready to pick up my case, but I'm hung up on which processor and motherboard I'm going to purchase.

 

Most of what I do is gaming on my PC, and I like to stream my raids (World of warcraft, what a nerd) so that we can go back and rewatch to check for our mistakes. I also play a lot of the newer titles like Witcher 3, soon I'll be playing the new MGS, and I really like to push my system to the max when I can. My current setup is as follows:

 

i5-3570k 3.40GHz 4-core Processor

EVGA Nvidia 660 Superclocked

12GB DDR3 (I don't remember what speed, it's slow) RAM

 

All the rest doesn't matter, it's no-name garbage on a mini atx board.

 

Finally, time to talk Processors. I'm definitely set on getting an intel processor, because I am not impressed with AMDs recent chipsets, although if we have any fanboys with legitimate arguments, I'm more than happy to consider them. A lot of the new processors have been focused on lower clock speeds and more cores, which I really won't need. I'm currently looking at either the LGA 1150 4790k, which clocks at 4.0GHz, or the 1151 6700k, which also clocks at 4.0GHz, but supports DDR4 RAM. I'm torn, because the price difference is $80, which is nothing to sneeze at, for nearly identical performance. Is it worth me diving into the world of DDR4 in preparations for the eventual price changes? Will the 1151 socket be the primary intel socket in the future, or will they return to 1150? I'm torn because at the moment DDR4 ram is so much more expensive unless you get something small, like 16GB. Not to mention there is a lot more motherboard competition for the 1150 socket. 

 

So tell me. Why should I get one or the other? I know that the 6700k features a built-in turbo, but is it even noticeable? Help me choose!

SAME SHIT DIFFERENT GRAPHICS. LOL

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'm definitely doing a full system upgrade, I would like to run a full atx and ditch the old chipset, since the difference in price between a 3770k and a 4790k is so close, despite the (relatively) big performance gap.

hummm...i was thinking more about like you selling the i5-3570K online to the most offering and buying i7-3770K also used for cheap or something that way you re-use your board and RAM and save a ton of money

[Krotchkoman]

hummm...i was thinking more about like you selling the i5-3570K online to the most offering and buying i7-3770K also used for cheap or something that way you re-use your board and RAM and save a ton of money

 

But... my mini ATX case... the cable management is impossible... AGH. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

But... my mini ATX case... the cable management is impossible... AGH. 

easy...get a new CASE!! ...and an after market CPU cooling solution as well BTW

[Krotchkoman]

easy...get a new CASE!! ...and an after market CPU cooling solution as well BTW

 

My only issue is that by the time I dip deep into a new CPU, a new cooler, and a new PSU (I already have it in my living room, it was a good deal!) I feel like I could have better spent that money on a near grail-rig. Not to say that it won't be more expensive, but I feel like I would end up at least $300-$400 in the hole for not much of an upgrade, when I can do a full build for about double that (without my new card, that is)

[Chickenator]

Hello everyone! First post here. Little bit of background, I am an avid pc user and builder, and I am prepping to do my next build within the next 3 to 6 months. I have already picked up a 750w power supply, and I'm getting ready to pick up my case, but I'm hung up on which processor and motherboard I'm going to purchase.

 

Most of what I do is gaming on my PC, and I like to stream my raids (World of warcraft, what a nerd) so that we can go back and rewatch to check for our mistakes. I also play a lot of the newer titles like Witcher 3, soon I'll be playing the new MGS, and I really like to push my system to the max when I can. My current setup is as follows:

 

i5-3570k 3.40GHz 4-core Processor

EVGA Nvidia 660 Superclocked

12GB DDR3 (I don't remember what speed, it's slow) RAM

 

All the rest doesn't matter, it's no-name garbage on a mini atx board.

 

Finally, time to talk Processors. I'm definitely set on getting an intel processor, because I am not impressed with AMDs recent chipsets, although if we have any fanboys with legitimate arguments, I'm more than happy to consider them. A lot of the new processors have been focused on lower clock speeds and more cores, which I really won't need. I'm currently looking at either the LGA 1150 4790k, which clocks at 4.0GHz, or the 1151 6700k, which also clocks at 4.0GHz, but supports DDR4 RAM. I'm torn, because the price difference is $80, which is nothing to sneeze at, for nearly identical performance. Is it worth me diving into the world of DDR4 in preparations for the eventual price changes? Will the 1151 socket be the primary intel socket in the future, or will they return to 1150? I'm torn because at the moment DDR4 ram is so much more expensive unless you get something small, like 16GB. Not to mention there is a lot more motherboard competition for the 1150 socket. 

 

So tell me. Why should I get one or the other? I know that the 6700k features a built-in turbo, but is it even noticeable? Help me choose!

6700K is similar to all redos of Intel processors for a loong time, with a tiny performance difference.  however, DDR4 is getting cheaper (then again, so is DDR3.)  Here are two (affordable) builds I would recommend (leaving out PSU because you already have one.).

 

6700K: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b3DQWZ

 

6600K (Great for gaming, a step down in price (a lot) and performance (a little from the 6700K): 

 

4790K: Notice the price drop here from the first build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PK9w23

 

Either choice will be great, but I would go for the 4790k.

[Krotchkoman]

6700K is similar to all redos of Intel processors for a loong time, with a tiny performance difference.  however, DDR4 is getting cheaper (then again, so is DDR3.)  Here are two (affordable) builds I would recommend (leaving out PSU because you already have one.).

 

6700K: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b3DQWZ

 

6600K (Great for gaming, a step down in price (a lot) and performance (a little from the 6700K): 

 

4790K: Notice the price drop here from the first build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PK9w23

 

Either choice will be great, but I would go for the 4790k.

 

You left out the 6700k accidentally, but if you look at the 6600k and the 4790k prices... They're nearly identical, considering you left out that extra HDD on the 4790k (Which I wouldn't be buying anyways, I have a storage solution that works). So at this glance... the 4790k and 6600k are nearly identically priced for a build. Is there a direct benchmark comparison between the two processors? Like a firemark score or anything? I've looked briefly, but only saw graphics card comparisons.

 

All in all, it looks like a $100 difference in total cost (Which I about estimated in the original post) to switch to the newest processor, with the new DDR4 RAM.

 

EDIT: From the looks of it, the 4790k, 6600k, and 6700k are considered the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st processors, respectively, as far as performance for gaming goes. I read that a 6600k is a 4% increase over a 4790k, and a 6700k is a 14% increase over a 4790k, so it's rather minimal, but then it still comes down to socket changes and DDR4 cost.

[Sintezza]

im a bit lazy to read the whole thread.

But is this for mainaly gaming?

 

Then dont waste money on a platform upgrade.

But just upgrade the GPU!

Even an upgrade from a 3570K to a 6600k is not realy worth it from a gaming perspective.

[Krotchkoman]

It's like nobody in this thread believes I actually want to upgrade my CPU, despite being in the CPU forums  Trust me when I say it's time for a new CPU, and for the record, I am well aware that my GPU is nowhere near top of the line, and I'll be upgrading that as well. This discussion is concerning my CPU.

[SirWendall]

It's like nobody in this thread believes I actually want to upgrade my CPU, despite being in the CPU forums  Trust me when I say it's time for a new CPU, and for the record, I am well aware that my GPU is nowhere near top of the line, and I'll be upgrading that as well. This discussion is concerning my CPU.

Get the 6700K then. Not much is different from the 4790K