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According to the only benchmarks I can find the 3.0 Extreme performs a between an X60 and an H220.  How does it perform better than the 2.0 Extreme with the thicker radiator?

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More thick=more surface area resulting in better cooling.

Water 2.0 Extreme is 240x120x45

Water 3.0 Extreme is 240x120x28

 

Yet the water 3.0 Extreme performs better.

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Water 2.0 Extreme is 240x120x45

Water 3.0 Extreme is 240x120x28

 

Yet the water 3.0 Extreme performs better.

I just went from what you said in the OP. Probably higher fin density.

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One thing I see is, it says the fans are 82CFM on the water 2.0 extreme: http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00001876

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99CFM on the water 3.0 extreme: http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_Specification.aspx?id=C_00002065

 

Is that CFM of both fans or individual fans?  I am using Cougar Hydraulic Bearing fans atm and want to use them on the radiator.

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Is that CFM of both fans or individual fans?  I am using Cougar Hydraulic Bearing fans atm and want to use them on the radiator.

 

that would be a single fan rated.

 

the controller uses PWM fans, so your cougars should be a PWM variety. these compact

pump/controllers do not vary the voltage, rather than adjust the cycle-rate of the on/off

switch. if PWM fans are not used, the fans will received direct voltage (11.5-12.1v by my

voltmeter).

 

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that would be a single fan rated.

 

the controller uses PWM fans, so your cougars should be a PWM variety. these compact

pump/controllers do not vary the voltage, rather than adjust the cycle-rate of the on/off

switch. if PWM fans are not used, the fans will received direct voltage (11.5-12.1v by my

voltmeter).

 

airdeano

I have my fans @ 100% as they are ultra silent.  They offer 1.74 mm/h2o of static pressure.

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great.. i used the CF-V12H fans for about 5mo and had to remove them for two

reasons. inconsistent speeds/performance and bearing failure (which was

prolly why it was inconsistent). i felt the rating (SP) was a lot weaker than

advertised. the Bitfenix Pro fans were just as powerful at 12v (1.24mm/h2o) than

the V12H fans. anyway i went to Noctua, BGears and Corsair fan with no other

issues..

hopefully you get different results.

 

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I have cougar hydraulic bearing ultra silent fans. 1.74mm/h20 and I bought them for a radiator

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So they made most of the improvements in the block and the fans. I don't plan on using the stock fans with this cooler, would the thicker Water 2.0 Extreme outperform the 3.0 Extreme with my Cougar Hydraulic-Bearing fans because it's thicker.

Specs: Core I7-2600K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.35V, 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance Black 1600MHz CL9, Cooler Master Evo 212, MSI Z77 Mpower Motherboard, Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 Vapor-X @ 1000/1400, Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue Edition w/ 3 Cougar Hydraulic Bearing 120MM fans (2 up top 1 in the bottom) replaced side panel with a window, and rear fan with a Cougar Hydraulic Bearing 140MM, Cooler Master GX 650 80+ Bronze PSU, Samsung DVD-RW, Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD, Seagate 750GB SATA III 7200RPM

 

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Yes it would the 2.0 would be better because its more thicker

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3.0 is a 240x120x27mm rad the 2.0 is 240x120x42mm rad.

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So they made most of the improvements in the block and the fans. I don't plan on using the stock fans with this cooler, would the thicker Water 2.0 Extreme outperform the 3.0 Extreme with my Cougar Hydraulic-Bearing fans because it's thicker.

 

it is not necessary to create a new topic when you already had a similar thread started.

all that does is create confusion for members with a lot of back-n-forth with information

already stated.. best to amend older thread with new information.

 

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A thicker rad does not necessarily mean better performance.

 

It means a more consistent performance across a higher range of different fan RPMs.

 

If the 3.0 rad is designed for high RPM fans then it could easily beat the 2.0 rad.

 

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A thicker rad does not necessarily mean better performance.

 

It means a more consistent performance across a higher range of different fan RPMs.

 

If the 3.0 rad is designed for high RPM fans then it could easily beat the 2.0 rad.

 

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And congratz @airdeano .

 But you know what fans i'll be using.

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 But you know what fans i'll be using.

The fans don't matter. Its the RPM you choose to run them at.

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The fans don't matter. Its the RPM you choose to run them at.

You know they are 1200 RPM.

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