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a10 785/70k vs i3 4370

the apu has better on board graphics

while the i3 has better cpu

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If you're getting a GPU, then go with an i3, although the 4370 isn't worth it over the 4130/4150 unless it's only a couple dollars more. 

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What do you want better iGPU or better CPU? :D

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i3 for CPU, a10 for graphics.

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the apu has better on board graphics

 

and is it better to run in dual graphics or to get something like a 960/ r9 380

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the APU's CPU is also quite good - better than the dual core i3.

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and is it better to run in dual graphics or to get something like a 960/ r9 380

Go with an i3 (or an 860k if you need to save money) and get a GPU, dual graphics is terrible. 

 

the APU's CPU is also quite good - better than the dual core i3.

no it's not. 

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and is it better to run in dual graphics or to get something like a 960/ r9 380

no the best gpu you can get to run in dual graphics is a r7 250 and a r7 260x will beat the r7 250 and the apu in dual graphics

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Go with an i3 (or an 860k if you need to save money) and get a GPU. 

 

no it's not. 

The 7850K has the same power as the i5 2500k which IIRC is better than a dual core i3.

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The 7850K has the same power as the i5 2500k which IIRC is better than a dual core i3.

The 7850k is the same cpu as an 860k, which is nowhere near a 2500k.

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If you are getting a separate GPU, get the i3. Not getting a separate GPU? A10 7870k. Also if you are getting a low end AMD GPU R9 24/50, get the A10 for crossfire.

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The 7850k is the same cpu as an 860k, which is nowhere near a 2500k. 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A10-7850K+APU&id=2133

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If you are getting a separate GPU, get the i3. Not getting a separate GPU? A10 7870k. Also if you are getting a low end AMD GPU R9 24/50, get the A10 for crossfire.

 

is there an overclockable i3

 

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Synthetic benchmarks are meaningless -- look up how the FX compares to a Haswell i5 on that and then have fun reading through: 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/362258-best-amd-cpu-under-£150-no-bottleneck-on-a-r9-280/?p=4910466

 

 

is there an overclockable i3

No, but even a locked i3 is faster.

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Like was already said, APU if you dont want to use a dedicated GPU , i3 with another GPU.

So comes the question, whats the budget for the computer?

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The 7850k is the same cpu as an 860k, which is nowhere near a 2500k.

cinebench seems to disagree

running i7 860 right now (the non-k)

 

nevermind thought you meant the intel 860

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cinebench seems to disagree

running i7 860 right now (the non-k)

860k is an AMD processor.. Athlon 860K, and cinebench is a pretty bad benchmark, is synthetic and seems to unfairly benefit Intel.

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Like was already said, APU if you dont want to use a dedicated GPU , i3 with another GPU.

So comes the question, whats the budget for the computer?

 

£675. includeing monitor but no os or hdd but ssd Include

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860k is an AMD processor.. Athlon 860K, and cinebench is a pretty bad benchmark, is synthetic and seems to unfairly benefit Intel.

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£675. includeing monitor but no os or hdd but ssd Include

i3 + R9 380 in this budget.

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would I be able to fit in an i5 4460

With monitor and SSD, dont think so

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pentium g3258 + r9 390x

 

I didn't think the Pentium was 1. powerful enough for an r9 390x 2. a good enough cpu since it has just 2 core and no ht

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