Bad FPS in Dragon Age Inquisition

[Terrorfisk]

So, Dragon Age on my system is really weird in terms of the FPS, even after lowering my graphics settings. At times with nothing going on (even just looking at walls at times) it drops to sub 20s while at other times it's at a solid 60 no issues at all. It was a similar before when I started playing just after getting this PC, but no where near as bad, mostly 45-60 FPS. Sometimes when there was a ton going on it went to 30-ish, on higher settings. Is this a known issue, and if so is there any fixes? Or is it just my system?

 

 

Specs:

 

AMD FX 6300 @ 4.3 GHz

MSI gaming OC GTX 780 @ Stock

8GB RAM

[Dive5885]

Can you monitor you're gpu usage with MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X?

 

That will help so we can see if there is any bottleneck in you're system.

[typographie]

I think a lot of people are going to accuse the FX-6300 of bottlenecking performance, but I think that should be doing better than you've described [source].

 

It sounds like something might be overheating and throttling. Can you get temperature data during gameplay, preferably at the moments when it's struggling?

[Terrorfisk]

Can you monitor you're gpu usage with MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X?

 

That will help so we can see if there is any bottleneck in you're system.

 

 

I think a lot of people are going to accuse the FX-6300 of bottlenecking performance, but I think that should be doing better than you've described [source].

 

It sounds like something might be overheating and throttling. Can you get temperature data during gameplay, preferably at the moments when it's struggling?

I'll do this and post some screen caps tomorrow, 

[Terrorfisk]

Can you monitor you're gpu usage with MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X?

 

That will help so we can see if there is any bottleneck in you're system.

 

 

I think a lot of people are going to accuse the FX-6300 of bottlenecking performance, but I think that should be doing better than you've described [source].

 

It sounds like something might be overheating and throttling. Can you get temperature data during gameplay, preferably at the moments when it's struggling?

Got 4 screen caps (2 bad 2 good) with CPU + GPU + RAM usage, temps and FPS

 

Good ones

http://i.imgur.com/gk6arzE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TQSTSZR.jpg

Bad ones

http://i.imgur.com/tElrrFa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HmO9GLl.jpg

[R_Golden]

Got 4 screen caps (2 bad 2 good) with CPU + GPU + RAM usage, temps and FPS

Good ones

http://i.imgur.com/gk6arzE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TQSTSZR.jpg

Bad ones

http://i.imgur.com/tElrrFa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HmO9GLl.jpg

That looks a lot to me like a CPU bottleneck.

[Terrorfisk]

That looks a lot to me like a CPU bottleneck.

 

Yeah I suspected as much tbh, think a AMD FX 8320 or 8350 even would resolve it? Would rather not change platform atm or spend too much money on a new CPU. Will probably invest in a new cooler and case at the same time  though.

[Vrbas]

Yeah I suspected as much tbh, think a AMD FX 8320 or 8350 even would resolve it? Would rather not change platform atm or spend too much money on a new CPU. Will probably invest in a new cooler and case at the same time though.

Spending the money to get an 8350 wouldn't be worth it. You won't really get and performance boost from it. The only option would be to switch platforms but as you said you don't want to do that. Just keep what you have now and upgrade when the next generation of CPUs come out.

The FX CPUs are not worth putting any more money into. They are a huge let down. (I've owned an 8320)

[R_Golden]

Yeah I suspected as much tbh, think a AMD FX 8320 or 8350 even would resolve it? Would rather not change platform atm or spend too much money on a new CPU. Will probably invest in a new cooler and case at the same time though.

The 8320 won't help much if at all, it adds 2 cores which games usually only use 4 so you still have weak cores just more of them. I would just save for an i5 and motherboard combo.

[Terrorfisk]

Spending the money to get an 8350 wouldn't be worth it. You won't really get and performance boost from it. The only option would be to switch platforms but as you said you don't want to do that. Just keep what you have now and upgrade when the next generation of CPUs come out.

The FX CPUs are not worth putting any more money into. They are a huge let down. (I've owned an 8320)

 

 

The 8320 won't help much if at all, it adds 2 cores which games usually only use 4 so you still have weak cores just more of them. I would just save for an i5 and motherboard combo.

 

Alright, will have to look into what a i5 MB/CPU combo would cost or what they would cost to buy seperatly. And guessing my current install of Windows wouldn't work? (OEM)

[R_Golden]

Alright, will have to look into what a i5 MB/CPU combo would cost or what they would cost to buy seperatly. And guessing my current install of Windows wouldn't work? (OEM)

Do you live near a MicroCenter? Not only do they sell the i5 already pretty cheap, they have some good combos.

[Terrorfisk]

Do you live near a MicroCenter? Not only do they sell the i5 already pretty cheap, they have some good combos.

No I live in Sweden

[Gullerback]

I have the same cpu and a 760 and I get solid 50-60s constant with nearly max settings.    Are you using Frame limiting on Precision or Afterburner? I tried it on DA-I and after a while it would tank my clock rates and kill framerates on DA in particular.

 

Check for throttling as well as temps, DAI can tend to really get your gpu going.

 

 

EDIT:  Late but i noticed cpu temps are WELL over 60c.... Thats not good, even hitting 73c at one point.  As far as I'm aware the general consensus of a safe operating temp for a 6300 is 64c and your well over safe temps especially on the frame dip screens

[Terrorfisk]

I have the same cpu and a 760 and I get solid 50-60s constant with nearly max settings.    Are you using Frame limiting on Precision or Afterburner? I tried it on DA-I and after a while it would tank my clock rates and kill framerates on DA in particular.

 

Check for throttling as well as temps, DAI can tend to really get your gpu going.

 

 

EDIT:  Late but i noticed cpu temps are WELL over 60c.... Thats not good, even hitting 73c at one point.  As far as I'm aware the general consensus of a safe operating temp for a 6300 is 64c and your well over safe temps especially on the frame dip screens

 

No I usualy don't have afterburner or hwmonitor running. Usualy only things running is Nvidia shadowplay for the FPS counter skype and sometimes a webbrowser. What cooler are you using?

 

Edit: Never mind, saw what you were using in the Current rig under your comment. Was looking at maybe getting a Corsair Hydro H55, Antec Kühler 650 or maybe Cooler Master Seidon 120V v2. As well as getting a NZXT H230 case. Because cheaped out on the case when buying this PC

[Gullerback]

No I usualy don't have afterburner or hwmonitor running. Usualy only things running is Nvidia shadowplay for the FPS counter skype and sometimes a webbrowser. What cooler are you using?

 

Edit: Never mind, saw what you were using in the Current rig under your comment. Was looking at maybe getting a Corsair Hydro H55, Antec Kühler 650 or maybe Cooler Master Seidon 120V v2. As well as getting a NZXT H230 case. Because cheaped out on the case when buying this PC

 

Are you using the stock cooler?

[Terrorfisk]

Are you using the stock cooler?

No, I got a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

[miagisan]

i have a fx 6300 with an r9 280x, my gpu is constantly pinged at 98%, i dont think the 780 is going to bottleneck that much

[Gullerback]

i'd watch and see if your cpu throttles from the overheating.  Cause 73 is quite high

[miagisan]

Yup. At 73 a fx 6300 will throttle. It's not supposed to go over 62c. You might want to re-paste and re-seat your cooler. I have my fx 6300 running at 3.5 ghz and it never goes over 51c at load

Edit - I am also using a hyper 212

[Terrorfisk]

i'd watch and see if your cpu throttles from the overheating.  Cause 73 is quite high

 

 

Yup. At 73 a fx 6300 will throttle. It's not supposed to go over 62c. You might want to re-paste and re-seat your cooler. I have my fx 6300 running at 3.5 ghz and it never goes over 51c at load

Edit - I am also using a hyper 212

Will clean it and all that next week, getting that case and a new cooler at the same time

[miagisan]

Will clean it and all that next week, getting that case and a new cooler at the same time

cool and i meant 4.5ghz, my phone + big fingers....recipe for disaster

[Terrorfisk]

cool and i meant 4.5ghz, my phone + big fingers....recipe for disaster

Yeah, know that feel haha Hopefully a new case with better airflow and cooler will fix things

[Terrorfisk]

Had to turn it back to stock speeds, but it's currently at a steady 20C idle with a new cooler, case and thermal paste. Gonna try and see if I can put up the clock speed a bit

[miagisan]

Had to turn it back to stock speeds, but it's currently at a steady 20C idle with a new cooler, case and thermal paste. Gonna try and see if I can put up the clock speed a bit

good luck, be interested to hear if it worked.

[Terrorfisk]

good luck, be interested to hear if it worked.

Just tried Dragon Age again, FPS dropped but never below 40 @ these temps http://i.imgur.com/SsSzHu6.pngCould probably increase the clock speed of my CPU and still have acceptable temps.