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TSMC reveals new 16nm FinFET+ process, vows to start 10nm production in Q4 2015

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So basically, we can expect higher prices, better performace and less energy consumption. If everything goes as planned, we can expect companies like AMD, Nvidia and Qualcomm to offer chips produced using 16nm technologies in 2015 – 2016 and 10nm fabrication process in late-2016 – 2017. That means it will compete against Intel with their Airlake/Cannonlake processors. So... competition, yayyy

 

 

According to TSMC, 16nm FinFET+ provides up to 15 per cent performance improvement over the 16nm FinFET at the same level of power consumption. At the same clock-rate, chips produced using 16nm FinFET+ are expected to consume 30 per cent less power compared to the same chips made using 16nm FinFET. Products manufactured using 16nm FinFET+ will offer up to 40 per cent speed improvement over chips made using 20nm technology.

Based on TSMC’s predictions, its 10nm FinFET will offer over 25 per cent clock-rate improvement over the 16nm FinFET+ at the same power, it is expected to be 45 per cent more energy efficient and it is predicted to provide 2.2 times higher density over 16nm FinFET+. Currently 10nm FinFET development is in progress, the risk production is on-track to start in Q4 2015.

 

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Woo! Tinier, more power efficient and more powerful processors are more better!

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Wut, where are our 20nm gpus then

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This is the same problem I have with nVidia. I know more about what's happening 2 years down the line, and have actually seen what's coming two years down the line, than something that's supposed to be out in a month or twos time.

 

What the hell.

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Wut, where are our 20nm gpus then

 

20 and 16nm are possible, but are currently only viable for simple circuits like ram. GPUs and CPUs are too complex and require much more accuracy. They could start producing them now, but the number of duds would dwarf any profits. We need to wait until later this year so they can refine the process. 

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20 and 16nm are possible, but are currently only viable for simple circuits like ram. GPUs and CPUs are too complex and require much more accuracy. They could start producing them now, but the number of duds would dwarf any profits. We need to wait until later this year so they can refine the process. 

isnt glofo supposed to be already making nvidia 20nm cards?

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AMD used to use global foundries... they just got the 28 nm process from TSMC bec globalfoundries wernt cutting it, i doubt they will skip 22 nm. especially when their fx series still uses the 32 nm process

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The Globalfoundries Samsung process merger at 14nm will really hurt TSMC, it's going to be faster, more power efficient & will arrive sooner than TSMC's 16nm process.

Still, competiton is great nevertheless  ^_^

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isnt glofo supposed to be already making nvidia 20nm cards?

 

Supposed to, but the process isn't ready yet. The earliest we will see any 20nm gpus will be June.

 

Edit- Actually, I'm pretty sure nvidia uses TSMC, not GloFo

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