Ram choosing help

[robby999]

Will there be much peformance diffrence

5 ryzen 2600

1070 x2 v4 inno 3d 

1x8gb corsar 3000 mhz ram 

Should i buy other ram 3600 mhz

And later replace 3000 mhz also to 3600

Will there be fps boost?

[r2724r16]

What's the CL of each of the kits?

[robby999]

2 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

What's the CL of each of the kits?

Not written corsair one is vengeance lpx 3000mhz

And 3600 mhz is ripjaws

[r2724r16]

Just now, robby999 said:

Not written corsair one is vengeance lpx 3000mhz

And 3600 mhz is ripjaws

It must be written. send PCPartPicker links of both kits.

[robby999]

https://www.amazon.in/Corsair-Vengeance-3000Mhz-Motherboard-CMK8GX4M1D3000C16/dp/B07B4FRMGV?tag=googinhydr18418-21&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=_k_Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29CcoJCwiBah6T_f2QhqZIasTzIRnLxbaFc57rHEjRhIwfwFGxAExc0aAniKEALw_wcB_k_&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29CcoJCwiBah6T_f2QhqZIasTzIRnLxbaFc57rHEjRhIwfwFGxAExc0aAniKEALw_wcB

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.in/G-Skill-Ripjaws-Memory-Module-3600Mhz/dp/B07D1NKV7H/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542933547&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=3600mhz&dpPl=1&dpID=41tlaX1L4OL&ref=plSrch

 

 

 

 

 

[nick name]

1 hour ago, robby999 said:

https://www.amazon.in/Corsair-Vengeance-3000Mhz-Motherboard-CMK8GX4M1D3000C16/dp/B07B4FRMGV?tag=googinhydr18418-21&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=_k_Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29CcoJCwiBah6T_f2QhqZIasTzIRnLxbaFc57rHEjRhIwfwFGxAExc0aAniKEALw_wcB_k_&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29CcoJCwiBah6T_f2QhqZIasTzIRnLxbaFc57rHEjRhIwfwFGxAExc0aAniKEALw_wcB

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.in/G-Skill-Ripjaws-Memory-Module-3600Mhz/dp/B07D1NKV7H/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542933547&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=3600mhz&dpPl=1&dpID=41tlaX1L4OL&ref=plSrch

 

 

 

 

 

A quick formula to compare kits is SPEED / CL.  So 3000/15=200 and 3600/19=189.  The larger number is generally going to be faster.  With that said I think you'd be able to get the 3600 kit to 3400CL16 more easily than the 3000 kit to 3400CL16.  And 3400/16=212.5.

[robby999]

21 hours ago, nick name said:

A quick formula to compare kits is SPEED / CL.  So 3000/15=200 and 3600/19=189.  The larger number is generally going to be faster.  With that said I think you'd be able to get the 3600 kit to 3400CL16 more easily than the 3000 kit to 3400CL16.  And 3400/16=212.5.

How to do that ?

Will there be big performance diffrence?

[robby999]

I already have c16 3000 mhz ram 

Should i get a 3600 c19 ram ?

My mobo supports till 3466

Ryzen 2600

[Krosis]

No, you won't notice too big of a difference. Stick with your 3000Mhz. It's perfectly adequate!

[nick name]

39 minutes ago, robby999 said:

How to do that ?

Will there be big performance diffrence?

It's something that is done in BIOS.  You can Google RAM overclocking and begin your education. 

 

And big difference -- no.  But there will be a difference.  Everything reacts differently to RAM speed and timings, but generally it's better to blend the two as opposed to have one suffer because of the other.  

[robby999]

38 minutes ago, nick name said:

It's something that is done in BIOS.  You can Google RAM overclocking and begin your education. 

 

And big difference -- no.  But there will be a difference.  Everything reacts differently to RAM speed and timings, but generally it's better to blend the two as opposed to have one suffer because of the other.  

Should i buy a 3600 cl19 or 3000 c16 mhz 

Where i already have a 3000 mhz c16 ram

And i can use upto 4 slots

Currently using only 1 

[nick name]

Just now, robby999 said:

Should i buy a 3600 cl19 or 3000 c16 mhz 

Where i already have a 3000 mhz c16 ram

And i can use upto 4 slots

Currently using only 1 

Just adding another stick to your current single DIMM setup will improve performance a little.  It all just depends on how much money you want to spend.  Unless you are into competitive benchmarking then I don't think buy a new kit is worth it and you should just buy a second 3000CL16 stick of RAM.  

[robby999]

10 minutes ago, nick name said:

Just adding another stick to your current single DIMM setup will improve performance a little.  It all just depends on how much money you want to spend.  Unless you are into competitive benchmarking then I don't think buy a new kit is worth it and you should just buy a second 3000CL16 stick of RAM.  

No i just use it for gaming purposes 

I can sell this ram and get a new 3600 pair

But my mobo supports only til 3466 mhz

I saw a 3000mhz  kit cl15 

For same price i missed buying it i didnt know much about cas 

Lol cl16 and c15 costed same 3000 mhz

No big performance diffrences ?

No big fps gains?

I have 1070 on ryzen 2600 

 

 

[nick name]

26 minutes ago, robby999 said:

No i just use it for gaming purposes 

I can sell this ram and get a new 3600 pair

But my mobo supports only til 3466 mhz

I saw a 3000mhz  kit cl15 

For same price i missed buying it i didnt know much about cas 

Lol cl16 and c15 costed same 3000 mhz

No big performance diffrences ?

No big fps gains?

I have 1070 on ryzen 2600 

 

 

There will be some difference if you buy a second stick and then a kit of 3600 would get you some more performance above that, but unless you're running an FPS counter you won't notice it.  If you're gonna buy a new kit then get that 3600 kit but run it at 3466MHz and tighter timings.  At 3600 and high timings you lose some of the performance you might gain from the faster speed.  

[pstarlord]

nope. that's way out of the range of a noticeable increase. 

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-performance-with-ryzen-7-2700x-on-the-amd-x470-platform_205154

 

Here's a cool article I found that tests a variety or RAM speeds with Ryzen in different applications.  Most of the time, the difference between 3000 to 3600 isn't THAT much.  

[robby999]

2 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

nope. that's way out of the range of a noticeable increase. 

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-performance-with-ryzen-7-2700x-on-the-amd-x470-platform_205154

 

Here's a cool article I found that tests a variety or RAM speeds with Ryzen in different applications.  Most of the time, the difference between 3000 to 3600 isn't THAT much.  

But i saw a linus video 1070 didnt had much diffrences when using higher mhz ram

Differences were higher in 1080 and ti 

[pstarlord]

7 minutes ago, robby999 said:

But i saw a linus video 1070 didnt had much diffrences when using higher mhz ram

Differences were higher in 1080 and ti 

You already have fast RAM, getting faster RAM won't give you a noticeable increase.  But spend your money how you want.  

[robby999]

1 minute ago, pstarlord said:

You already have fast RAM, getting faster RAM won't give you a noticeable increase.  But spend your money how you want.  

It would be a hassle to it i would still do if some noticeable difference or like +5 fps

I would have to sell my c16 3000mhz ram and then buy a 3600 ram where my mobo supports till 3466 mhz 

And would have to pay the diffrences between rams like 13$

[straight_stewie]

The way to calculate effective query return time for RAM (in a CAS only way) is to figure out the frequency in seconds of the clock speed, and multiply that by the CAS speed. This is a best case scenario RAM read request time. 

In your case, 3000MHz CAS 16 RAM. First we figure out the actual frequency of the RAM, which is simply the reported frequency divided by two (because DDR stands for Double Data Rate). So, 1500MHz has a period of .666 nanoseconds. Now, we multiply this by the CAS time of 16, and we get that it takes 10.656 nanoseconds for the memory to fulfil a best case memory request.

You are comparing this against RAM that is 3600MHz with a CAS of 19. 3600/2=1800. 1800MHz has a period of .555 nanoseconds. 19x0.555= 10.545 nanoseconds for a best case memory request. 

The difference is .111 nanoseconds in response time. The 3600MHz will be slightly faster. But that small amount of improvement isn't enough to justify the cost of new RAM (at least for non cutting edge scientific use cases). You will not notice any improvement at all (at least in CAS time. What are the other timings for both models?)

Alternatively, you can try to reduce the timings of you current RAM. Even reducing the CAS time of your 3000MHz sticks by 1, giving them a CAS of 15, will be a better improvement to performance than buying the other stick and running it at factory XMP specs.

. @robby999

[pstarlord]

Just now, robby999 said:

It would be a hassle to it i would still do if some noticeable difference or like +5 fps

I would have to sell my c16 3000mhz ram and then buy a 3600 ram where my mobo supports till 3466 mhz 

And would have to pay the diffrences between rams like 13$

Sounds like you've got your mind made up then. haha.  What do you need us for? haha

[robby999]

3 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

Sounds like you've got your mind made up then. haha.  What do you need us for? haha

I might do for +5 fps i just wanna know worth it or not

[pstarlord]

35 minutes ago, robby999 said:

I might do for +5 fps i just wanna know worth it or not

Everyone who has replied has told you that is not worth it.  I've shown you benchmark data to show you its not worth it, @straight_stewie showed you mathematical data to show you its not worth it.

 

It seems like you REALLY want to do it, and you weren't given the answer you want.  We've given you information, do with it what you want.  

[robby999]

28 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

Everyone who has replied has told you that is not worth it.  I've shown you benchmark data to show you its not worth it, @straight_stewie showed you mathematical data to show you its not worth it.

 

It seems like you REALLY want to do it, and you weren't given the answer you want.  We've given you information, do with it what you want.  

Yea ik i have already marked solved it an hour ago 

Thanks for information all you have provided

Good day