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racker24

I have a question about my Ryzen 3 1200.

 

is it bottleneck on my RX580 8gb? or is it just on the sweet spot?

 

I am either planning to replace my CPU with an i5-6400/7400 or I just upgrade my ram to 16gb. currently using 8gb. 

 

what you guys think?

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2 minutes ago, racker24 said:

I have a question about my Ryzen 3 1200.

 

is it bottleneck on my RX580 8gb? or is it just on the sweet spot?

 

I am either planning to replace my CPU with an i5-6400/7400 or I just upgrade my ram to 16gb. currently using 8gb. 

 

what you guys think?

It really depends on the game. Some such as Fallout 4 would be heavily bottlenecked in some scenarios. BTW, you'd be better off just getting something from the Ryzen2 line, as it'd be far cheaper than an i5 6400 or 7400+motherboard, which are really a small step up. Also 8GB of RAM is fine, though 16GB of course means that you could multi task while playing games far easier.

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8 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

It really depends on the game. Some such as Fallout 4 would be heavily bottlenecked in some scenarios. BTW, you'd be better off just getting something from the Ryzen2 line, as it'd be far cheaper than an i5 6400 or 7400+motherboard, which are really a small step up. Also 8GB of RAM is fine, though 16GB of course means that you could multi task while playing games far easier.

currently playing.

PUBG around 70-100fps min 57fps / TC Ghost recon wildlands 50fps min 35fps / AC Odyssey 40+fps min 30fps

 

my options are:

Keep the 8gb the a320 board and upgrade to a ryzen 5 1600 or Upgrade to a 16gb kit ram or the i5 6/7th gen(which look like a small stepup like you said)

I only have a very limited budget just to upgrade either cpu or ram

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3 minutes ago, racker24 said:

PUBG around 70-100fps min 57fps / TC Ghost recon wildlands 50fps min 35fps / AC Odyssey 40+fps min 30fps

I see open world Ubisoft titles. Yes, GPU is definitely being heavily bottlenecked by your R3 1200.

 

4 minutes ago, racker24 said:

my options are:

Keep the 8gb the a320 board and upgrade to a ryzen 5 1600 or Upgrade to a 16gb kit ram or the i5 6/7th gen(which look like a small stepup like you said)

I only have a very limited budget just to upgrade either cpu or ram

You'll have to change motherboards too if you switch to Intel.

 

Getting a 1600 will help, but it'll also be limited by the a320 board. Get a good b350/b450 as soon as you can.

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4 minutes ago, racker24 said:

currently playing.

PUBG around 70-100fps min 57fps / TC Ghost recon wildlands 50fps min 35fps / AC Odyssey 40+fps min 30fps

 

my options are:

Keep the 8gb the a320 board and upgrade to a ryzen 5 1600 or Upgrade to a 16gb kit ram or the i5 6/7th gen(which look like a small stepup like you said)

I only have a very limited budget just to upgrade either cpu or ram

So you're on a A320 board? Hrmm. Can you see if your BIOS will let you bump it up to 2666 memory?

 

It's likely just the raw clock speed that's bottlenecking the GPU. A Ryzen 5 2600 probably makes the most sense. AC:O just needs LOTS of cores. 

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3 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

I see open world Ubisoft titles. Yes, GPU is definitely being heavily bottlenecked by your R3 1200.

 

You'll have to change motherboards too if you switch to Intel.

 

Getting a 1600 will help, but it'll also be limited by the a320 board. Get a good b350/b450 as soon as you can.

yeah I board will be sold to if I switch to intel.

 

maybe I`ll just consider the 1600 but I wont change board. maybe a month or 2 I can. and I`ll keep 8gb ram tho I am eyeing on that team vulcan 16gb kit that is on sale at newegg

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5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

So you're on a A320 board? Hrmm. Can you see if your BIOS will let you bump it up to 2666 memory?

 

It's likely just the raw clock speed that's bottlenecking the GPU. A Ryzen 5 2600 probably makes the most sense. AC:O just needs LOTS of cores. 

Well I only can get a 1600 for my little upgrade budget. I`ll check it later if it but i recall it can't.

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3 minutes ago, racker24 said:

Well I only can get a 1600 for my little upgrade budget. I`ll check it later if it but i recall it can't.

The board will max out at 2666 Memory, I believe, unless the A-series allows for Memory to be OC'd but not the CPU clocks.

 

1600 is going for 130USD, while the 2600 is 155USD. That's why I asked. AC:O probably would get a little boost from more memory, but the rest generally won't. (Unless you leave far too many programs open.) You're clock-constrained on the primary game thread, which most of the rest of the Ryzen CPUs would solve.

 

A used 6400 build should be a little better, but AC:O will still murder it. It'll murder 7600k builds in the cities, like most recent UbiSoft games.

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4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

The board will max out at 2666 Memory, I believe, unless the A-series allows for Memory to be OC'd but not the CPU clocks.

 

1600 is going for 130USD, while the 2600 is 155USD. That's why I asked. AC:O probably would get a little boost from more memory, but the rest generally won't. (Unless you leave far too many programs open.) You're clock-constrained on the primary game thread, which most of the rest of the Ryzen CPUs would solve.

 

A used 6400 build should be a little better, but AC:O will still murder it. It'll murder 7600k builds in the cities, like most recent UbiSoft games.

A used 1600 in my place goes for 130-140usd and a used 2600 goes for 180 while a new one goes for 200. I`ll do a 1600 upgrade and a b350 board later on. Thanks for the info!

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1 minute ago, racker24 said:

A used 1600 in my place goes for 130-140usd and a used 2600 goes for 180 while a new one goes for 200. I`ll do a 1600 upgrade and a b350 board later on. Thanks for the info!

AC:O keeps scaling up to 16c Threadripper parts for performance with a 1080 Ti or higher. But that's because UbiSoft has made a strange engine and then put DRM on it that causes problems. But, aside from that, only a few of the really recent games need more than 8 Gb of system memory. I wouldn't recommend a non-esports build with just 8gb now, but it'll be fine in nearly every title on the market.

 

I would really recommend working within the BIOS to see if the memory will kick up to 2666. The memory itself should handle it, and that'll get really close to the performance peak for AMD systems.

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