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DarkGoblin963

So i was testing my new cpu cooler and used HWmonitor for monitoring temps and noticed that Under motherboard temps TMPIN8 TMPIN4 TIMPIN5 and TMPIN6 are showing temps at 119-120C except for TMPIN4 showing 111-112C which is weird, My motherboard is the ASUS TUF b360-plus gaming, Thing is about a month ago these temps were just as weird but they were different they were solid at 113-114c and now they stick to 120c So i am really concerned, Also i launch HWmonitor the second i boot up my pc and these temps are just stuck at 119-120c, Even after running the prime95 stress test the temps didn't move a little bit, Everything else is fine Cpu idles at 27-30c and gpu and motherboard temp is fine motherboard temp is pretty cool in BIOS,cpu doesn't reach 60c on prime95, HWinfo shows exact same readings as HWmonitor

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Those temps are VRMs, and those can operate at very high temperatures. They aren't semiconductors.

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Since the TMPIN temperatures aren't changing depending on the system load, I'm lead to believe that they are unused or faulty sensors that are just outputting a set, calculated or false value and are not actually measuring a real time temperature. That one value that is changing is likely a sensor for the VRM or something similar which are made to run at high temperatures.

 

Regardless of what they are for, they aren't anything to worry about. It's your CPU temperature that is important.

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Have you tried using different software to check them?  Give HWiNFO a go and see what it reports.  And VRM temps shouldn't be that high either so it is a concern.  If those temps are accurate then you are gonna wanna find a way to get some air moving over your VRMs.  

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3 hours ago, nick name said:

Have you tried using different software to check them?  Give HWiNFO a go and see what it reports.  And VRM temps shouldn't be that high either so it is a concern.  If those temps are accurate then you are gonna wanna find a way to get some air moving over your VRMs.  

 

3 hours ago, Shadow6767 said:

Since the TMPIN temperatures aren't changing depending on the system load, I'm lead to believe that they are unused or faulty sensors that are just outputting a set, calculated or false value and are not actually measuring a real time temperature. That one value that is changing is likely a sensor for the VRM or something similar which are made to run at high temperatures.

 

Regardless of what they are for, they aren't anything to worry about. It's your CPU temperature that is important.

I have tried using HWiNFO and it reads the exact same, The temps are solid they don't even fluctuate regardless of cpu/gpu load they just hover at 119-120c i have been using the PC for over 2 months now and have never experienced any system error or shut downs since i bought it, What concerned me is that the values changed since 2 months ago, They would stick at 114c instead of 120c now even though ambient temp is quite a bit lower than 2 months ago, also all of the temps changed not only one of them but when monitoring they don't change one bit.

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5 minutes ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

 

I have tried using HWiNFO and it reads the exact same, The temps are solid they don't even fluctuate regardless of cpu/gpu load they just hover at 119-120c i have been using the PC for over 2 months now and have never experienced any system error or shut downs since i bought it, What concerned me is that the values changed since 2 months ago, They would stick at 114c instead of 120c now even though ambient temp is quite a bit lower than 2 months ago, also all of the temps changed not only one of them but when monitoring they don't change one bit.

Well if it is as I fear then those temps are damaging to the VRM components and will only continue to make them degrade resulting in continually rising temps.  This will eventually lead to other components being damaged.  

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Just now, nick name said:

Well if it is as I fear then those temps are damaging to the VRM components and will only continue to make them degrade resulting in continually rising temps.  This will eventually lead to other components being damaged.  

It seems like there are two temps called TMPIN5 and TMPIN6 one of each is at 26c and the other at 119c which is kinda weird but TMPIN4 and TMPIN8 are at 111c and 119c each so i don't know... this is really starting to concern me, Isn't there another program i can use to identify if this is real or not, and shouldn't the temps differ a little from when i first launch to when for example i stress test, Here's a photo.

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Update: after 7 hours i just booted up and saw that most of these temps were at a solid 126-127c but in hwINFO there was no temp over 109c so it's definetely not the same in both programs, and temp4 had a max of 109c and min of 0c, But after a couple restarts i uninstalled both programs and re installed the latest versions and in HWmonitor readings are at 120-121c except tmpin4 at 112c and for some reason hwinfo is not showing the temp# anymore it just shows temps of CPU and mainboard and those are fine...

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There seems to be a pattern... Whenever i turn off the pc for a long time and turn it back on HWmonitor showsTMPIN temps at 127c and after about an hour they drop by 6-7c degrees and just stay like that, I also noticed one of the temps dropped to 0 and back to 127 instantly, I am really confused and concerned please help me i can't seem to figure this out... in BIOS motherboard and cpu temp is fine.

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3 hours ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

There seems to be a pattern... Whenever i turn off the pc for a long time and turn it back on HWmonitor showsTMPIN temps at 127c and after about an hour they drop by 6-7c degrees and just stay like that, I also noticed one of the temps dropped to 0 and back to 127 instantly, I am really confused and concerned please help me i can't seem to figure this out... in BIOS motherboard and cpu temp is fine.

The BIOS reported temperatures of the CPU and motherboard are accurate. I'm still convinced that the TMPIN temperatures are from unused or faulty sensors or HWMonitor and hwinfo are reporting false values. I don't think it is anything to worry about. If you had a thermal camera or temperature gun you could physically check the temperatures on different parts of the motherboard, chances are though you might not have anything like that as most people don't. If any part of the motherboard is actually over 100 degrees Celsius, I imagine that it would reflect a bit in the CPU and mainboard temperatures which it isn't, those temperatures for you are staying quite cool. VRM temperatures would for sure reflect in your CPU and mainboard temperatures, and again, they are still staying cool. I'm convinced it isn't anything to worry about.

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23 hours ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

There seems to be a pattern... Whenever i turn off the pc for a long time and turn it back on HWmonitor showsTMPIN temps at 127c and after about an hour they drop by 6-7c degrees and just stay like that, I also noticed one of the temps dropped to 0 and back to 127 instantly, I am really confused and concerned please help me i can't seem to figure this out... in BIOS motherboard and cpu temp is fine.

The reading is from faulty or unused sensors. Most temperature sensors have a range of -127c to 127c and it being pinged at 127c most certainly indicates as such. 

 

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On 11/1/2018 at 11:03 PM, nick name said:

Well if it is as I fear then those temps are damaging to the VRM components and will only continue to make them degrade resulting in continually rising temps.  This will eventually lead to other components being damaged.  

Fortunetly you are wrong there. Those sensors are very inaccurate and often faulty. Any temps showing over 80C there is not correct. PCs have safety measures against overheating, abnd while VRM can take up to 120C heat, having such temps right from boot isn't logical nor possible. That would mean there's short circuit somewhere causing issue, and system would have died already, actually probably during testing phase before leaving factory, if that really was situation.

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