Msi gs65

[Gio008]

Hello there,

I am looking to buy a new laptop and i am thinking of the msi gs65, going to use it for a bit of gaming my study(built environment) so i have to use some autocad and rendering. So i was wondering if this will be the right choice for me, is the built quality good i am very cautious with my tech so but will it last long. And does anyone have it and can yoi give me a little review of yoir opinion if so. Also in for other models but really loving the look of the gs65

[genexis_x]

GS65 has some issues

 

Location? Budget? Usage? Preferred max weight and min battery life?

[Gio008]

Location: the netherlands

Budget: 2k

Usage: gaming, rendering, autocad

Preferred max weight: as low as possible

Min battery life: i dont really care but 3 to 4 hours of normal use (text editing/youtube/movie watching)

[markr54632]

Build quality is absolute junk on the entire msi gs series. They're super fragile as well. They thermal throttle like crazy, but to be fair anything in that form factor is going to throttle heavily, especially in an autocad or heavy 3d rendering scenario.

 

I would also add that I cannot bring my gs63 to class and use it. It is very very loud. If the fans ramp up during lecture a nice teacher will make you shut it down. A not so nice one will ask you to leave. From the reviews of the gs65 and from using a sample model this is not something that has been fixed.

[genexis_x]

10 hours ago, Gio008 said:

Preferred max weight: as low as possible

Give me a range.

 

Any links of online stores?

[Gio008]

I can buy on

Coolblue

Mediamarkt

Bol.com

[genexis_x]

45 minutes ago, Gio008 said:

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Thanks for the links

 

What's your preferred max weight in kg?

[Gio008]

I think maximum 2.5kg a bit more i possible but prefer light weight

[genexis_x]

23 minutes ago, Gio008 said:

I think maximum 2.5kg a bit more i possible but prefer light weight

I would prefer slightly more weight (under 2.5kg) for better cooling. Would you prefer bulkier+better cooling or lighter+worse cooling?

[Gio008]

Lighter and worse cooling 

[genexis_x]

Sorted without order:

Under 2kg:

Spoiler

1. SKIKK 15EP95/15ER95 (Clevo P950EP6/ER) - 8750H+1060/1070MQ, 144Hz IPS, ~1.9kg

Mediocre cooling, good (not excellent) build quality. ~5hrs battery life. 1070MQ has undersized charger issue, therefore cannot be tuned to regular 1070

 

2. MSI P65 (GS65) - 8750H+1060MQ, ~1.9kg

Mediocre cooling, OKish build quality. ~6hrs battery life. Difficult for maintainence (upgrade RAM/storage, repaste)

 

3. SKIKK 15GK5Z/15GK6Z (TongFang GK5CN5Z/6Z) - 8750H+1050TI/1060, 144Hz IPS, ~2kg

OK-good cooling and build quality. 3-4hrs battery life.

 

4. MSI GS63 - 8750H+1060, 120Hz TN, ~5hrs battery life

2-2.5kg:

Spoiler

1. AWm15 - 8750H+1060, 300nits 72%NTSC 144Hz IPS, ~2.16kg

OK-good cooling, excellent build quality. Should have 6-7hrs battery life (90Wh battery, no 2.5 inch slot). Lacking reviews.

 

2. SKIKK 15GI5E/15GJ6E (TongFang GI5CN5E/GJ5CN6E) - 8750H+1050TI/1060, 144Hz IPS, ~2.2kg

Good cooling and build quality. 3-4hrs battery life.

 

3. Lenovo Legion Y530 - 8750H+1050TI/1060, 300nits 72%NTSC 60/144Hz IPS, ~2.35kg

Good cooling and OK-good build quality. 4-5hrs battery life.

 

4. HP Omen 15 dc - 8750H+1050TI/1060, 144Hz IPS (try to avoid GSync models), ~2.4kg

Good cooling and build quality. 6-7hrs battery life (70Wh, no GSync).

 

5. MSI GE63/GP63 - 8750H+1060/1070, 120Hz TN, ~2.5kg

Good-excellent cooling, good build quality. ~3hrs battery life.

 

6. Asus GL504GM - 8750H+1060, 144Hz IPS, ~2.5kg

Good cooling and build quality. ~6hrs battery life.

Slightly over budget:

Spoiler

1. Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Extreme - 8750H+1050TI MQ, ~1.7kg

Some cooling issue

 

2. Dell XPS 15 9575 with 16GB RAM - 8705G+Vega GL (between 1050 and 1050TI), ~2kg

Soldered RAM, magnet keyboard

Remember to get 16GB RAM. Note that LM paste is recommended in models with mediocre cooling. Make sure to do undervolting (CPU+GPU) and if possible, do a repaste (normal paste will do). Every model has its pros and cons, so make your decision and I'll tell you more about the specific model.

 

For more info on Clevo, TongFang and how to undervolt, check my signature below

[Gio008]

I think i will go with the gs65 though but forsure going to undervolt it if i choose the gs65 can you advice how many mv undervolt is right for that model and if i dont choose the gs65 maybe the xps but is the gpu anygood for gaming

[Gio008]

Also i going to get it on blackfriday so maybe there will be a nice discount

[genexis_x]

9 minutes ago, Gio008 said:

I think i will go with the gs65

I highly recommend TongFang GK5CN5Z/6Z if you don't care much about battery life. This model has surprisingly good cooling for a thin and light gaming laptop. Only thing is the fan noise can be quite loud (at least it keeps internals cool).

10 minutes ago, Gio008 said:

if i choose the gs65 can you advice how many mv undervolt is right for that model

Depends on silicon. Trial and error

11 minutes ago, Gio008 said:

xps

You know why I didn't include the XPS 15 9570 above? Too much issues.

 

May I know what games do you play?

[Gio008]

I am going to play the new games fallout 76 bf5 cuphead 

Really loving the looks of msi

 

[Gio008]

Can you give me some advice on undervolting? How to do it without bluescreening

[genexis_x]

1 hour ago, Gio008 said:

Can you give me some advice on undervolting? How to do it without bluescreening

Don't worry with BSOD. The undervolt will reset if you done it right. Trial and error to find the most undervolt