i3-4150 Upgrade

[The Zaad]

Is it worth upgrading to something like an i5-4690 (I would put an i7 from this generation but they cost more than when they came out now for some reason)

or should I just upgrade the cpu+motherboard+ram?

I guess what I'm really asking is what is the best price to performance upgrade I can make to my current CPU, ideally as cheap as possible while still maintaining a significant performance upgrade (for gaming). 

 

Mobo: MSI H81M-E33

GPU: RX480 Sapphire Nitro+ (Which is being bottle necked pretty bad)

RAM: 8GB ddr3 gskill

[Vasllo]

I wouldn't go with any i5 from 7th gen and under for a serious upgrade. Look for any used i7 you can, if you can't find any at a decent price, it's time for a platform upgrade, which you definitely should go with a R5 2600 or even a R5 1600 used to save some money.

[Snipergod87]

You will need to look on the used market.  If you are looking for new theres no surprise that a new 4th gen i7 is more expensive than when launched.

Used 4770k's are going for 135-> 170 US on ebay.

You get a cheap upgrade to keep your system running and can build new later.

[Metallus97]

Go Ryzen!

The i7 has not that much more single core perf. Therefore it won't help much and is not worth the $$

like the others already said R5 1700 used or R5 2600. Perfect gaming CPU, wich supports more than the 480

[aisle9]

Checking eBay, a 4770 is $140 and a 4790 is $150. An i5-4690 costs $110. The K-SKU chips are significantly more, but with an H81 motherboard you don't need a K. Are you in the US, or abroad? If you're US, I'd suggest saving up a little bit more until you can get to a 4770 or 4790.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

Checking eBay, a 4770 is $140 and a 4790 is $150. An i5-4690 costs $110. The K-SKU chips are significantly more, but with an H81 motherboard you don't need a K. Are you in the US, or abroad? If you're US, I'd suggest saving up a little bit more until you can get to a 4770 or 4790.

price wise ok... but this is no sigificant perf. improve 

[Snipergod87]

4 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

price wise ok... but this is no sigificant perf. improve 

Its quite a huge performance improvement compared to the i3.  And cheaper than a rebuild which would require DDR4 RAM.

By your logic jumping from an i3 to a 1st gen Ryzen 5 has no significant performance improvement.

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, Snipergod87 said:

Its quite a huge performance improvement compared to the i3.  And cheaper than a rebuild which would require DDR4 RAM.

By your logic jumping from an i3 to a 1st gen Ryzen 5 has no significant performance improvement.

yeah but keep price/pef in mind 

both will be enough power but there are Manny cheapass B350+R5 1700 combs available 

at least in Europe. This +selling i3+ mobo will be much better price/perf and perf in general 

[The Zaad]

7 minutes ago, Snipergod87 said:

Its quite a huge performance improvement compared to the i3.  And cheaper than a rebuild which would require DDR4 RAM.

Yeah this is my main issue. Like is the performance of a new Motherboard + ram + cpu worth the higher price instead of a use 7th gen cpu?

 

I get that new stuff is going to be better longevity wise, but is the price difference equal to the performance increase?

USA btw.

[Metallus97]

hm best price/perf might actually be selling the i3 and getting a i7 used. the rest of the system is ok. Do you have single or dual channel ram? for streaming dual Chanel helps

[The Zaad]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

hm best price/perf might actually be selling the i3 and getting a i7 used. the rest of the system is ok. Do you have single or dual channel ram? for streaming dual Chanel helps

I just have the one stick. If I go used I will probably get another.

[Fasauceome]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-4790-3-6GHz-Quad-Core-BX80646I74790-Processor/153239581409?epid=217573929&hash=item23adca72e1:g:RjgAAOSwJ2pb2OhV:rk:6:pf:0&LH_BIN=1

or

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-i7-4770-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-CPU-4th-Generation-SR149-3-40/323526327551?hash=item4b53abfcff:g:a5UAAOSwzINb2NZd:rk:3:pf:1&LH_BIN=1&LH_ItemCondition=4&frcectupt=true

 

it's like $30 more than a good haswell i5, if that.

6 minutes ago, The Zaad said:

I just have the one stick. If I go used I will probably get another.

Dual channel ram is awesome. Highly recommended you double your ram.

[The Zaad]

I think I will buy a used i7 4790 off ebay. I'm not entirely certain yet, but that's how I feel right now.

I might just wait for black friday/cyber monday deals.

[Eastman51]

27 minutes ago, The Zaad said:

Is it worth upgrading to something like an i5-4690 (I would put an i7 from this generation but they cost more than when they came out now for some reason)

or should I just upgrade the cpu+motherboard+ram?

I guess what I'm really asking is what is the best price to performance upgrade I can make to my current CPU, ideally as cheap as possible while still maintaining a significant performance upgrade (for gaming). 

 

Mobo: MSI H81M-E33

GPU: RX480 Sapphire Nitro+ (Which is being bottle necked pretty bad)

RAM: 8GB ddr3 gskill

bro, I had an i5-4670k (basically same thing as the i5-4690k, but an OEM chip) for a while. I upgraded about 2 months ago because it was falling behind (and shaming my 1070 with its presence). I went with the Ryzen 5 2600x, solid CPU for a decent price. Leagues better than my aging i5. 

 

Only downside is RAM costs right now, but since you've been scraping by with 8GB already, continuing to do so with a stick of DDR4 won't be nearly as bad as going higher than 8GB. Though 16GB is a nice pseudo-standard to get behind

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Eastman51 said:

bro, I had an i5-4670k (basically same thing as the i5-4690k, but an OEM chip) for a while. I upgraded about 2 months ago because it was falling behind (and shaming my 1070 with its presence). I went with the Ryzen 5 2600x, solid CPU for a decent price. Leagues better than my aging i5. 

 

Only downside is RAM costs right now, but since you've been scraping by with 8GB already, continuing to do so with a stick of DDR4 won't be nearly as bad as going higher than 8GB. Though 16GB is a nice pseudo-standard to get behind

yes that's my opinion to. btw: I am stuck on 4670k now, heavy oc but I still NED to move to ryzen...

But in teams of price to performance gained Tham intel wins 

[Eastman51]

Just now, Metallus97 said:

yes that's my opinion to. btw: I am stuck on 4670k now, heavy oc but I still NED to move to ryzen...

But in teams of price to performance gained Tham intel wins 

my i5 wouldn't OC and was performing sub-par, which didn't help its case. RIP Haswell.

I've gone through 2 Haswell chips now, dam

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Eastman51 said:

my i5 wouldn't OC and was performing sub-par, which didn't help its case. RIP Haswell.

I've gone through 2 Haswell chips now, dam

I guess after this month mine will be dead to

running a heavy OC 24/7 for the folding month 

[Eastman51]

Just now, Metallus97 said:

I guess after this month mine will be dead to

running a heavy OC 24/7 for the folding month 

RIP. Start saving for a Ryzen dude

[aisle9]

19 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

yeah but keep price/pef in mind 

both will be enough power but there are Manny cheapass B350+R5 1700 combs available 

at least in Europe. This +selling i3+ mobo will be much better price/perf and perf in general 

Dude, the H81 board and i3 are worth a combined $100 right now, and that's being generous. 8GB of DDR4 RAM still costs north of $70 by itself. There is no way on God's green earth that a complete system change from Haswell to Ryzen is more cost-effective than replacing a Haswell i3 with an i7 and doubling the RAM. There is no way.