Confused with Cache

[dmxdwd]

So I'm getting an upgrade for my CPU A10-9700, I never realised it had NO L3 CACHE so it's obviously bottlenecking my pc like crazy with my 1050ti and 16gb of ram.

My previous build had a Intel Xeon X5687 which had 12MB of L3 cache and I want to buy the Ryzen 3 1200 for this upgrade because I'm cheap. I wanted to save up for the 1500X but I can't get money right now.

 

Since the 1200 has 8MB of L3 cache, will I have major bottlenecking with the 1200?

 

Thanks.

[STRESSMASTER]

1 minute ago, dmxdwd said:

So I'm getting an upgrade for my CPU A10-9700, I never realised it had NO L3 CACHE so it's obviously bottlenecking my pc like crazy with my 1050ti and 16gb of ram.

My previous build had a Intel Xeon X5687 which had 12MB of L3 cache and I want to buy the Ryzen 3 1200 for this upgrade because I'm cheap. I wanted to save up for the 1500X but I can't get money right now.

 

Since the 1200 has 8MB of L3 cache, will I have major bottlenecking with the 1200?

 

Thanks.

with a 1050ti you should have no issue or only sight bottlenecking. BTW I recommence the 2700 or 2700x instead of the 1500x. more cores and more threads.

[r2724r16]

5 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

with a 1050ti you should have no issue or only sight bottlenecking. BTW I recommence the 2700 or 2700x instead of the 1500x. more cores and more threads.

People have budgets... your advice is like saying "get a i9 7980XE because more cores and more threads".

[STRESSMASTER]

Just now, r2724r16 said:

People have budgets... your advice is like saying "get a i9 7980XE because more cores and more threads".

yes but if saving already the cost of a 1500x to a 2700 is not huge. It was a suggestion not a demand. he can obviously get whatever he want

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

11 minutes ago, dmxdwd said:

So I'm getting an upgrade for my CPU A10-9700, I never realised it had NO L3 CACHE so it's obviously bottlenecking my pc like crazy with my 1050ti and 16gb of ram.

My previous build had a Intel Xeon X5687 which had 12MB of L3 cache and I want to buy the Ryzen 3 1200 for this upgrade because I'm cheap. I wanted to save up for the 1500X but I can't get money right now.

 

Since the 1200 has 8MB of L3 cache, will I have major bottlenecking with the 1200?

 

Thanks.

There is much more than L3 in cpu performance. Id ignore the L3 numbers on a cpu, and look at reiews of the cpu, the L3 amount alone is useless.

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

yes but if saving already the cost of a 1500x to a 2700 is not huge. It was a suggestion not a demand. he can obviously get whatever he want

The R7 2700 is $120 more than the R5 1500X

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

1500x to a 2700 is not huge

Spoiler

$125 price difference, or 89% the price of a 1500x, is not huge, ok

 

[triggered]

 

15 minutes ago, dmxdwd said:

I never realised it had NO L3 CACHE so it's obviously bottlenecking my pc like crazy with my 1050ti and 16gb of ram.

don't judge a CPU based on cache sizes, it's not a major factor in performance (check R5 1400 vs R5 1500x). The A10's problem is being Bulldozer based rather than Zen.

[STRESSMASTER]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

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$125 price difference is not huge, ok

 

[triggered]

 

don't judge a CPU based on cache sizes, it's not a major factor in performance (check R5 1400 vs R5 1500x). The A10's problem is being Bulldozer based rather than Zen.

In the big picture of total PC cost versus the performance no $125 is a lesser evil. The cost to performance ratio is better.

[dmxdwd]

So would I be fine with the 1200 and have little bottlenecking and finally be able to run games at 2GB VRAM 60fps?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, dmxdwd said:

So would I be fine with the 1200 and have little bottlenecking and finally be able to run games at 2GB VRAM 60fps?

2200g is often the better choice, since it costs about the same as 1200 but comes with integrated graphics (that itself is worth half the price of the CPU).

 

Why 1050ti with 2GB VRAM? They all have 4GB

 

7 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

In the big picture of total PC cost versus the performance no $125 is a lesser evil. The cost to performance ratio is better.

A Ryzen 3 + 1050ti build's budget tops at $700, spending 18% extra is still not viable

 

#pulling_people_down_to_Earth_is_difficult

[dmxdwd]

21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

2200g is often the better choice, since it costs about the same as 1200 but comes with integrated graphics (that itself is worth half the price of the CPU).

 

Why 1050ti with 2GB VRAM? They all have 4GB

I prefer to use 2.5GB VRAM with the 4GB VRAM in games since I get 100% of the time 60fps which is all I really need. I think I'll be getting the 1200 since theres no ned for integrated graphics, thanks anyway.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, dmxdwd said:

I prefer to use 2.5GB VRAM with the 4GB VRAM in games since I get 100% of the time 60fps which is all I really need. I think I'll be getting the 1200 since theres no ned for integrated graphics, thanks anyway.

You don't get to choose the amount of VRAM used...

 

2200g is actually cheaper in the US... Also the resale value is much higher. Like, 1200 is worth much less after the 2200g's announcement.

[dmxdwd]

20 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You don't get to choose the amount of VRAM used...

 

2200g is actually cheaper in the US... Also the resale value is much higher. Like, 1200 is worth much less after the 2200g's announcement.

In games it shows VRAM usage and I'm not in the US so

[Jurrunio]

3 hours ago, dmxdwd said:

In games it shows VRAM usage

Yes, but it still gets to pull whatever it wants.