CPU Cooler Choice

[ZimBoy]

Hi all. So need some help on deciding what cooler to get.

 

Currently my system contains a 240mm AIO (That cools my 7600k soon to be upgraded to 8700k) that I'm combining with a NZXT Kraken G12, as my current cooler on my 1080ti is making a racket. Therefore I'm going to need something new to cool my CPU. Ideally id get another 240mm AIO but my case can only support another 120mm AIO and they perform pretty close if not worse than some air coolers.

 

So if you guys could give me some suggestions for a good air cooler under 155mm in height that would be great !!

[Jurrunio]

I want to recommend the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B, but I'm afraid that's not enough for a 5GHz 8700k. I'd say you should get a 120mm AIO for the graphics card, or even one of those aftermarket air coolers like the Arctic Accelero or Raijintek Morpheus.

[WoodenMarker]

What case are you using? Where are you shopping / located? Budget?

[Shimejii]

I would not use anything smaller then a 240/280 on a 8700k, its simply going to be a hot chip. Is there a way you can get a bigger case since your going to be taking the motherboard out anyway?

[ZimBoy]

Shopping in australia my budget is flexible within reason I might need to upgrade the case then. Dont think a 120 mm AIO could handle the GPU

[Shimejii]

1 minute ago, ZimBoy said:

Shopping in australia my budget is flexible within reason I might need to upgrade the case then. Dont think a 120 mm AIO could handle the GPU

Youd be suprised what direct die cooling is capable of. If intel or AMD figure out a way to make it so they can do direct die cooling safely and increase the die size accordingly, man that would be amazing thermals. I would suggest a 140 or 240 if you could, since it should be within a 10-20$ margin.

 

Case upgrade is always nice

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

they can do direct die cooling safely and increase the die size accordingly, man that would be amazing thermals.

oh man, direct die is much more risky to damage a cpu, 

imagine how hard it is to seat 1kg heatsink on small die evenly. too many things may go wrong: bad paste/ contacts, greater pressure 

[Shimejii]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

oh man, direct die is much more risky to damage a cpu, 

imagine how hard it is to seat 1kg heatsink on small die evenly. too many things may go wrong: bad paste/ contacts, greater pressure 

Well there would have to be a bit of a redesign for cooling mounting for that, but it would work. But it wont happen for at least another 5 years id say

[JPStone]

I had good experience with my corsair H50 if your looking for an AIO.

[WoodenMarker]

11 hours ago, ZimBoy said:

Shopping in australia my budget is flexible within reason I might need to upgrade the case then. Dont think a 120 mm AIO could handle the GPU

A 120mm AIO would be enough. It's exactly what hybrid cooled 1080 Ti's are and temps are generally the best compared to other air cooled solutions. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2957-evga-1080ti-sc2-hybrid-review-thermal-noise-analysis/page-2

What case are you using?

11 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Well there would have to be a bit of a redesign for cooling mounting for that, but it would work. But it wont happen for at least another 5 years id say

GPUs are easier to cool because of the larger surface area and not direct die. I don't think direct die cooling will be used for consumer CPUs since it's risky and far from necessary.

[Shimejii]

2 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

A 120mm AIO would be enough. It's exactly what hybrid cooled 1080 Ti's are and temps are generally the best compared to other air cooled solutions. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2957-evga-1080ti-sc2-hybrid-review-thermal-noise-analysis/page-2

What case are you using?

GPUs are easier to cool because of the larger surface area and not direct die. I don't think direct die cooling will be used for consumer CPUs since it's risky and far from necessary.

its 100% direct die cooling and also having the larger die. If there was another thermal interface between the cooler and the die it would not cool well. And CPU risky isnt really risky if you design the PCB and Die correctly, and you can easily gain a ton of performance. Its just a big redesign, and it will eventually happen.

[WoodenMarker]

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

its 100% direct die cooling and also having the larger die. If there was another thermal interface between the cooler and the die it would not cool well. And CPU risky isnt really risky if you design the PCB and Die correctly, and you can easily gain a ton of performance. Its just a big redesign, and it will eventually happen.

Without a larger die, bare die cooling doesn't make as much of a difference. Delidding gets you most of the way there while maintaining the advantages of having an IHS. 

Compare the 7600k and 7900x with bare die cooling results:

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2017/02/07/7600k_naked_die_cooling_temperature_followup

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i9-7900x-overclock-ln2,5618-4.html

The needed big redesign to minimize the risk and it still being riskier then is why I don't think it's likely. Many coolers can overtighten and potentially crack the die. 

It'll probably eventually happen but no one really knows when. 

[_Hustler_One_]

Noctua NH-C14S

[ZimBoy]

So i ended up playing it safe with the cooling. I live in australia and my room is bound be to be ridiculously hot ! So im cooling my CPU with a 280 Kraken and my gpu with a 240 kraken! thanks for the help guys!