New Peripheral?

[Toby]

It's easy to poke holes in an idea like this, but I commend you for attempting to redesign something that has had so many iterations and is so refined.

 

More than anything else, I wonder how you'd grip this? The "responsibility" of mouse movement and clicking is typically shared, with the thumb and pinky taking care of movement while your other fingers deal with the primary mouse buttons, but in this case the thumb and pinky are taking care of both the movement and the majority of clicking. I'd imagine that'd be detrimental to both mouse control and clicking responsiveness (in your fingers, not the mouse).

 

If you want a better response from people like Corsair or Razer, I think you need a better model...A better representation of your idea. I mean no offense, but I can tell you aren't a sculptor by profession.

 

the keyboard has a numberpad

 

That explains the lack of a market for mice like the Naga, G600 and G602. Oh wait, they're immensely profitable.

 

Also, my keyboard doesn't have a numberpad.

[Echodamus]

This looks horribly uncomfortable and unneeded. I really can not think of an application where this would be better than a mouse/keyboard or mouse/gamepad combo and what game or application would require more than the keys provided by either a keyboard or gamepad? It is an interesting concept, but there is no point in reinventing the wheel. 

[Dylan lol]

It's easy to poke holes in an idea like this, but I commend you for attempting to redesign something that has had so many iterations and is so refined.

 

More than anything else, I wonder how you'd grip this? The "responsibility" of mouse movement and clicking is typically shared, with the thumb and pinky taking care of movement while your other fingers deal with the primary mouse buttons, but in this case the thumb and pinky are taking care of both the movement and the majority of clicking. I'd imagine that'd be detrimental to both mouse control and clicking responsiveness (in your fingers, not the mouse).

 

If you want a better response from people like Corsair or Razer, I think you need a better model...A better representation of your idea. I mean no offense, but I can tell you aren't a sculptor by profession.

 

 

That explains the lack of a market for mice like the Naga, G600 and G602. Oh wait, they're immensely profitable.

 

Also, my keyboard doesn't have a numberpad.

thats because clueless people who dont know about sensors buy it, theyre laser. also those mice are only viable for mmos like wow, and theyre uncomfortable since u have to rest ur thumb on the numbers. as for razer and logitech their best mice are abyssus/deathadder for razer and g400s for logitech.

 

as for your keyboard im not talking about the number pad next to the arrow keys, thats useless. EVERY keyboard has a number pad below the f keys.

[Toby]

thats because clueless people who dont know about sensors buy it, theyre laser. also those mice are only viable for mmos like wow, and theyre uncomfortable since u have to rest ur thumb on the numbers. as for razer and logitech their best mice are abyssus/deathadder for razer and g400s for logitech.

 

It's great that you've learnt the pros and cons of optical and laser sensors, but try to avoid becoming a zealot. While optical sensors are optimal for certain gameplay, that doesn't render all laser mice obsolete. MMOs are a huge market by themselves, but there are plenty of other games or genres that benefit from a healthy supply of easily-reached keybindings. The fact that other people might have different priorities doesn't make them clueless.

 

 

as for your keyboard im not talking about the number pad next to the arrow keys, thats useless. EVERY keyboard has a number pad below the f keys.

 

No. That's the number row. The number pad is what goes next to the arrow keys and really isn't useless.

[DaGameFace]

It's easy to poke holes in an idea like this, but I commend you for attempting to redesign something that has had so many iterations and is so refined.

 

More than anything else, I wonder how you'd grip this? The "responsibility" of mouse movement and clicking is typically shared, with the thumb and pinky taking care of movement while your other fingers deal with the primary mouse buttons, but in this case the thumb and pinky are taking care of both the movement and the majority of clicking. I'd imagine that'd be detrimental to both mouse control and clicking responsiveness (in your fingers, not the mouse).

 

If you want a better response from people like Corsair or Razer, I think you need a better model...A better representation of your idea. I mean no offense, but I can tell you aren't a sculptor by profession.

 

well, you can still click the buttons while palming the mouse (sorry but i dont think that claw grip would work on this mouse but it might depending on the size, placement and sensitivity of the left click right click paddels)

 

This looks horribly uncomfortable and unneeded. I really can not think of an application where this would be better than a mouse/keyboard or mouse/gamepad combo and what game or application would require more than the keys provided by either a keyboard or gamepad? It is an interesting concept, but there is no point in reinventing the wheel. 

 

unneeded? what do you call the g600 ? or better yet the OO mouse? in my mind this is acually a more practical and useable version of something like that

 

also you misunderstand this would be used along side of a keyboard/gamepad just like the g600 or any other mouse

[Echodamus]

well, you can still click the buttons while palming the mouse (sorry but i dont think that claw grip would work on this mouse but it might depending on the size, placement and sensitivity of the left click right click paddels)

 

 

unneeded? what do you call the g600 ? or better yet the OO mouse? in my mind this is acually a more practical and useable version of something like that

 

also you misunderstand this would be used along side of a keyboard/gamepad just like the g600 or any other mouse

I understand perfectly what OP is saying. The g600 is actually practical, it isn't huge and is very comfortable to use, the buttons aren't intrusive for what it is. And I generally keep up with tech and new products, I love getting and tinkering with new gadgets, but I have never heard of the OO mouse. And there is probably good reason for that. I understand that it would be used alongside a keyboard or gamepad perfectly, but my point is you don't need both. I doubt anyone needs more keys than way are provided by a standard gaming mouse/keyboard, and if someone needs some macros then they can use something like a g600, but still have a nice, comfortable mouse when they just want to surf the web or something along those lines. I don't think this is practical or more viable, it seems to bulky, uncomfortable, heavy, and crowded to just causally use. If this product takes off then sure, I'll eat my words, but it won't happen. 

[Skcorpion86]

Personally, in my opinion it look great. However its really only made for certain people. I am not one of them. I think it would be weird to click stuff with my thumb and pinky. I like the Idea, but it just seems weird. I would try it out, but in all honesty it would be hard to get most people to switch from their mouse to this, and I wish you the best of luck to your project. I would lije to see it take off and it would be cool if Linus un boxed it one day.

[Glornags]

The Concept is good but the right "pinky finger" would be hard to use, i dont think using your pinky finger on a button would be comfortable when its on the side. but if you get it out there i'll be happy to support

[StitchMonkey]

I think it could have promise, but I also think you should not limit yourself to gaming. . .  this could be useful in other types of applications. 

 

It also should have some more support for your hand so there is less risk of palming the buttons,  that is was my first concern,  you need to be able to use it comfortable without accidentally pushing anything, and hover hand is not comfortable.

 

I also don't think you should design it for thin pinky, the pinky is very weak and almost useless, ring finger would likely be much more comfortable.

 

I do use the Razer Naga and love it, so I would potentially use it. I would want key bind options, and I would want it small enough for my hands. 

 

Do you have anyone professional helping you?  It might be worth the money.  For what it is worth, I did take a few classes from an intellectual properties attorney a few years back.  He strongly advocated that it is more important to be first to market with an idea. 

 

I also think you might need a better mock up.  I looked at it a second time after writing this and realized I had gotten some things wrong.  A pic with a hand on it would be good. 

[DaGameFace]

I think it could have promise, but I also think you should not limit yourself to gaming. . .  this could be useful in other types of applications. 

 

It also should have some more support for your hand so there is less risk of palming the buttons,  that is was my first concern,  you need to be able to use it comfortable without accidentally pushing anything, and hover hand is not comfortable.

 

I also don't think you should design it for thin pinky, the pinky is very weak and almost useless, ring finger would likely be much more comfortable.

 

I do use the Razer Naga and love it, so I would potentially use it. I would want key bind options, and I would want it small enough for my hands. 

 

Do you have anyone professional helping you?  It might be worth the money.  For what it is worth, I did take a few classes from an intellectual properties attorney a few years back.  He strongly advocated that it is more important to be first to market with an idea. 

 

I also think you might need a better mock up.  I looked at it a second time after writing this and realized I had gotten some things wrong.  A pic with a hand on it would be good. 

 

Yeah I don't think it would only gaming, I know that it would be nice for CAD, probably even Photoshop.

 

I uploaded pictures with my hand on it on the original post, there is no risk of palming buttons and I think it is very comfortable, It is really a palm grip with a tiny bit of help from thumb and pink (I doubt it would press any buttons)

 

The pinky is strong enough for backspace and many other keys isn't it? It would just take a couple days to get used to the paddles position and its position isn't definite yet. (maybe rotated more or less vertical)

I would definitely expect any drivers for it to offer tons of key bind options because that would be its main selling point

Yes I had a retired Patten Autonomy help me out with filing the provisional patent application so if this comes to market and its not me that is a violation of my patent

Im looking into having my cad files 3d printed from Shapeways.com

 

 

Hope this helped