Help with fps and graphics

[Famalam]

Hi, I have a question.

 

I have a i5 playing escape from tarkov with a 1060 6gb getting 60 fps.

I was wondering if I upgraded to i7 how much fps max would I increase by just be upgrading cpu to i7 but sticking to 1060 6gb

[GrumpyNoodles]

That all depends on what processor the i5 and i7 are as you have to factor in bottlenecking. Just a quick note most games benefit from a higher frequency than a higher core count. Most of the time 4 cores is enough.

[bleedblue]

Is Escape from Tarkov CPU dependent?

 

If not, maybe 1 or 2 fps.

If you want more fps in games, a GPU upgrade is what you want.

[Fasauceome]

Is Vsync on? game might just be limited to 60 because it's your monitor's refresh rate.

[Famalam]

3 minutes ago, GrumpyNoodles said:

That all depends on what processor the i5 and i7 are as you have to factor in bottlenecking. Just a quick note most games benefit from a higher frequency than a higher core count. Most of the time 4 cores is enough.

its from a i5 8600k to a i7 8700k. Will i get a huge fps difference

[Wh0_Am_1]

7 minutes ago, Famalam said:

Hi, I have a question.

 

I have a i5 playing escape from tarkov with a 1060 6gb getting 60 fps.

I was wondering if I upgraded to i7 how much fps max would I increase by just be upgrading cpu to i7 but sticking to 1060 6gb

There are a multitude of processors that lay claim to the titles of i5 and i7 we need to know which ones in particular you are talking about.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, bleedblue said:

If you want more fps in games, a GPU upgrade is what you want.

Not really

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, Famalam said:

its from a i5 8600k to a i7 8700k. Will i get a huge fps difference

No.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Famalam said:

its from a i5 8600k to a i7 8700k. Will i get a huge fps difference

Nope. You've got basically almost max gaming performance CPU wise.

[Famalam]

4 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

Is Escape from Tarkov CPU dependent?

 

If not, maybe 1 or 2 fps.

If you want more fps in games, a GPU upgrade is what you want.

Yes it is a cpu dependent game. So will I have a huge fps difference if I switch from i5 6600k to a i7- 8700k. I just want to know the max fps I can increase cause me and my friend are in a heated argument

[bleedblue]

5 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Not really

GPU upgrade != fps increase ?

I'm confused.

1 minute ago, Famalam said:

Yes it is a cpu dependent game. So will I have a huge fps difference if I switch from i5 6600k to a i7- 8700k. I just want to know the max fps I can increase cause me and my friend are in a heated argument

Have you monitored CPU and GPU usages in game?

[Famalam]

2 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

GPU upgrade != fps increase ?

I'm confused.

Have you monitored CPU and GPU usages in game?

BAsically my friend said he got 25-30 more fps just by upgrading from i5 6600k to i7 8700k while keeping everything the same. And I don't believe him. I am basically saying that there is no way a cpu upgrade like that can get you 25-30 more fps. So I am wondering if it is even possible to get that much fps increase just by upgrading cpu. Keep in mind that this is a cpu dependent game

[bleedblue]

1 minute ago, Famalam said:

BAsically my friend said he got 25-30 more fps just by upgrading from i5 6600k to i7 8700k while keeping everything the same. And I don't believe him. I am basically saying that there is no way a cpu upgrade like that can get you 25-30 more fps. So I am wondering if it is even possible to get that much fps increase just by upgrading cpu. Keep in mind that this is a cpu dependent game

Yes there is no way that happens.

 

Anywhere from 0 to 5.

 

Only way to settle this is to install something to monitor the performance difference between your rigs. Granted you have the same GPU.

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Famalam said:

BAsically my friend said he got 25-30 more fps just by upgrading from i5 6600k to i7 8700k while keeping everything the same. And I don't believe him. I am basically saying that there is no way a cpu upgrade like that can get you 25-30 more fps. So I am wondering if it is even possible to get that much fps increase just by upgrading cpu. Keep in mind that this is a cpu dependent game

Okay the difference between a 6600k and a 8600k is rather significant... But the difference will still not be that large, unless the game plays well with multithreading, otherwise the single core speeds haven't changed that much since the launch of Skylake, as Intel is still stuck on 14nm...

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

GPU upgrade != fps increase ?

I'm confused.

Ever hear of a CPU bottleneck?

[bleedblue]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Ever hear of a CPU bottleneck?

Has that been established in the context of my comment? No.

[Fasauceome]

15 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

Has that been established in the context of my comment? No.

Alright, you're correct if you want to be extremely general, of course. Though the "context of your comment" being rather lacking was what I was mostly remarking on. You wouldn't put a 1080 to with an i5 750, it would give the same fps as a 1050 ti.

[Fasauceome]

39 minutes ago, Famalam said:

BAsically my friend said he got 25-30 more fps just by upgrading from i5 6600k to i7 8700k while keeping everything the same. And I don't believe him. I am basically saying that there is no way a cpu upgrade like that can get you 25-30 more fps. So I am wondering if it is even possible to get that much fps increase just by upgrading cpu. Keep in mind that this is a cpu dependent game

New motherboard with potentially better VRMs for overclocking bump, increased multithreaded power for CPU heavy titles and/or multitasking, sounds feasible to me.

[bleedblue]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Alright, you're correct if you want to be extremely general, of course. Though the "context of your comment" being rather lacking was what I was mostly remarking on. You wouldn't put a 1080 to with an i5 750, it would give the same fps as a 1050 ti.

I asked if it was CPU dependent.

 

Following that inquiry was "if not.." meaning "if not cpu dependent" just in case it wasn't clear enough.

[SADS]

Ok, i think the guy needs some actual help here.

I feel that all the battling and short answers in this thread are probably just confusing more than anything.

 

The long and short of it is; You're going to have to do a bit of testing/checking to find out.

By this i mean (as someone already suggested), running some monitoring software (maybe MSI afterburner for GPU monitoring, keeping task manager or something open for CPU monitoring).

This will let you see if your CPU or GPU is working to its full potential when playing the game. if your CPU is at 100% and your GPU is not, then you could be CPU limited, and vice versa.

Make sure you turn off V sync when you do this (as someone suggested), because if you limit your frame rate to your screens output of 60fps (for example), then you might not even be using either your CPU or GPU to their full potential. you can always turn it back on afterwards if you prefer.

 

You should always remember that a bottleneck will almost always be present in your system, there will always be one part that is slower (it doesnt always have to be the CPU or the GPU). And that you shouldn't instantly upgrade because you think you have a bottleneck.

The important thing is to decide if the bottleneck is acceptable for your use case. if you only care about one game, and that game is memory intensive, for example, then having a GPU bottleneck might not be a big problem for you and buying a new GPU wouldn't make a big difference.

 

So do some tests, find out where you think the system might be slow and then you can consider what sort of changes could be made to make it better, if you actually need to make any changes at all.

it's also not a good idea to focus on a single game for your upgrade path and testing if you want to have a machine that can be used to play many other games in the future.

[Ross Siggers]

6 hours ago, Famalam said:

BAsically my friend said he got 25-30 more fps just by upgrading from i5 6600k to i7 8700k while keeping everything the same. 

Is your friend selling you the 8700k by any chance...