Windows 10 regular harddisk spinup

[HenryFaber]

Greetings from Old Europe,

 

since the days of Windows XP I've set my harddisks (usually 3 or more) to shutdown after 2 minutes in energy management.

This has worked with Win 7 and kind of with Win 8.1 as well. Even more so since Windows itself is on SSD some time ago. They only spinup when I (!) access them.

But Windows 10 says: I'm not having this. Every 30 minutes or so all HDD spinup for no reason. After the set 2 minutes they shutdown again. Only to wake up half an hour later.

I deactivated these partitions from Defender, deactivated autodefrag and file indexing. All of which isn't even necessary under Windows 7 for the magic. But no, just no.

I can't let them be on all the time either. These 3 or more drives are just too noisy, must be some bad vibes from the case.

 

So what on earth does only Windows 10 possess to regularly spinup the harddrives?

 

Thanks a lot.

[Fasauceome]

My external hard drive does this as well, gonna follow this thread to see if anyone knows

[HenryFaber]

If an external drive does this as well I'm screwed. I was thinking about throwing the harddisks out of the PC and into an external 4x case. Not a NAS, just an USB box. But I assume reading your comment this is not going to help.

[Car712]

44 minutes ago, HenryFaber said:

Greetings from Old Europe,

 

since the days of Windows XP I've set my harddisks (usually 3 or more) to shutdown after 2 minutes in energy management.

This has worked with Win 7 and kind of with Win 8.1 as well. Even more so since Windows itself is on SSD some time ago. They only spinup when I (!) access them.

But Windows 10 says: I'm not having this. Every 30 minutes or so all HDD spinup for no reason. After the set 2 minutes they shutdown again. Only to wake up half an hour later.

I deactivated these partitions from Defender, deactivated autodefrag and file indexing. All of which isn't even necessary under Windows 7 for the magic. But no, just no.

I can't let them be on all the time either. These 3 or more drives are just too noisy, must be some bad vibes from the case.

 

So what on earth does only Windows 10 possess to regularly spinup the harddrives?

 

Thanks a lot.

Are these internal Hard Drives or external USB Hard Drives?

[HenryFaber]

1 minute ago, bobbyd52 said:

Are these internal Hard Drives or external USB Hard Drives?

Internal.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, HenryFaber said:

If an external drive does this as well I'm screwed. I was thinking about throwing the harddisks out of the PC and into an external 4x case. Not a NAS, just an USB box. But I assume reading your comment this is not going to help.

Well I use an eSATA drive so it might be different for USB

[Car712]

4 minutes ago, HenryFaber said:

Internal.

Why not buy one (or a few) external USB Hard Drives, they are quieter, and probably more reliable!

[Fasauceome]

22 minutes ago, bobbyd52 said:

Why not buy one (or a few) external USB Hard Drives, they are quieter, and probably more reliable!

Already mentioned in the thread

[HenryFaber]

I want to add that I have two very different PC with this issue. My new R5 2600 and my old i3 550. The 1156 one got from Win 7 to 10, and already back again to 7. With the new AMD I've played with 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 only to also land on 7 again cause ASUS doesn't bother to provide 8.1 drivers (only 7 / 10). It worked well with the 7 drivers under 8.1 though.

[homeap5]

If you want to save power, then I must disappoint you - hard drives takes only 5W (+/-) of power, so spinning them off is useless and it slowing down access to files.

 

But if you're looking for program that have access to your harddrives, you must check every program and every task in task scheduler that may check something. Even windows services like BITS may try to use your storage. Or your games updater. Or programs updaters. Basically everything may be reason. You may use ProcMon to figure it out, but it will be painful and time consuming process.

 

BTW. Deactivating defender using it's own settings doesn't mean that program stops working. It just stops scanning files or reporting viruses, but still works like any other AV program (that you can disable, but it still slows down every file operation).

[HenryFaber]

You are correct. I don't do it for power saving. I do it for noise cancelling. My 3 harddisks are playing a concert of vibration when they run together. Maybe bad case with bad dampening. It's very disturbing at night when it's quiet and I just browse around.

The problem is it's doing this even on a fresh installed Windows. No programs, no games, no nothing.

I disable the defender in two ways. One in itself and the other by excluding all hdd-partitions from the real-time scan.

Maybe the next update 1809 will end this once and for all and resets it to the way Win 7 or 8.1 works. *LOL*

[homeap5]

Fresh installed windows is a problem. It has enabled all features that may cause this problem. Configure everything and do not start from zero every time, because you'll never resolve any problem. I wish you luck.