Router for Steam in-home streaming

[DoctorJohnSmith]

I was looking for an upgrade from my ISP's basic 2.4Ghz router and i saw this router by Xiaomi. It's only $30.

 

https://www.honorbuy.com/1048-original-xiaomi-mi-router-3.html

 

i was wondering if this will be sufficient enough for Steam in-home streaming. (wirelessly of course)

 

any replies appreciated, thanks.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Is there no way to use wired?  Wireless is not ideal for in-home streaming.

I get a pretty reliable connection myself but I still get random stutters on WiFi, perfectly smooth on wired.

[beersykins]

That sounds like going from junk to junk.

 

Also as per above home streaming over WiFi generally performs poorly, especially if both the client and the server are both on the same ap/router/frequency

[Alex Atkin UK]

Yes I forgot to mention, if you MUST do it this way, you want at least the client or server (most likely server) to be wired.  Having both on wireless you would be asking for trouble.

[DoctorJohnSmith]

On 9/22/2018 at 6:14 PM, Alex Atkin UK said:

Yes I forgot to mention, if you MUST do it this way, you want at least the client or server (most likely server) to be wired.  Having both on wireless you would be asking for trouble.

Yes, the server will be wired, but the client (a laptop) will be wireless.Will the 5Ghz band by the xiaomi router sufficient enough to at least "minimize" network interference?.

 

i'm also having trouble getting Wifi signal to an upstairs bedroom, i'm hoping 5Ghz would penetrate a concrete wall since streaming youtube with 2.4Ghz in my bedroom would be hopeless.

[beersykins]

5 hours ago, AmazingRez97 said:

i'm hoping 5Ghz would penetrate a concrete wall since streaming youtube with 2.4Ghz in my bedroom would be hopeless.

I think you have that backwards, lower frequencies offer more penetration than higher ones.

[mynameisjuan]

6 hours ago, AmazingRez97 said:

i'm hoping 5Ghz would penetrate a concrete

Aint going to happen. 2.4 on the lowest channel is your best bet, but lets hope you have no other 2.4 networks near by.

 

Also in home streaming only requires minimal bandwidth. I was able to stream 1080 60 on my Nvidia shield 2 apartments over on a gaming night with minimal frame loss. The experience was great. 

 

The biggest problem with in home streaming is actually steams shit PC optimization when streaming PC to PC, doesn't matter how good of a router you have.

[Alex Atkin UK]

On 23/09/2018 at 8:37 PM, mynameisjuan said:

Aint going to happen. 2.4 on the lowest channel is your best bet, but lets hope you have no other 2.4 networks near by.

 

Also in home streaming only requires minimal bandwidth. I was able to stream 1080 60 on my Nvidia shield 2 apartments over on a gaming night with minimal frame loss. The experience was great. 

 

The biggest problem with in home streaming is actually steams shit PC optimization when streaming PC to PC, doesn't matter how good of a router you have.

Can't say I agree, to avoid picture quality issues I have found in-home streaming using very high bitrates - far beyond what 2.4Ghz can handle.

I have also seen 5Ghz go through concrete over a short range without issues.  It depends on so many factors its impossible to predict.

[mynameisjuan]

20 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Can't say I agree, to avoid picture quality issues I have found in-home streaming using very high bitrates - far beyond what 2.4Ghz can handle.

I have also seen 5Ghz go through concrete over a short range without issues.  It depends on so many factors its impossible to predict.

Turn on steam statistics or look at real time values of the bandwidth. Hits no where near 2.4 limit, not sure where you are getting this from. 

 

Also yes 5ghz can make it through but its neither reliable or strong enough to not experience issues. Also when there are concrete walls there is reflection causing loss to everything on the router side of the wall. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

I did, used to hit 60Mbit I think its even gone up to 80Mbit at times.  Real-world performance on 2.4Ghz is 35Mbit, sometimes dropping to 1Mbit due to congestion on the bands.

[mynameisjuan]

12 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I did, used to hit 60Mbit I think its even gone up to 80Mbit at times.  Real-world performance on 2.4Ghz is 35Mbit, sometimes dropping to 1Mbit due to congestion on the bands.

1080p only pushes around 30mbps for me on beautiful setting, never had a game push past it nor had issues with it. 2.4 is not a problem with streaming. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

What GPU are you using?  Could make a difference due to the efficiency (or not) of hardware encoding.

Of course its also possible they just improved the compression since I checked, but it seems unlikely as GPU encoding is limited by the GPU.

 

It was a while ago, but I got 15Mbit at 768p 30fps.

I don't have any footage showing 1080p 60fps though but logically that should increase considerably.  Although I do have a different GPU today so maybe it would be different.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Curious, it does only peak at 30Mbit at 1080p 60fps now.  I wonder if NVENC was improved in the GTX 1070 Ti vs the GTX 970 or just general in-home Streaming improvements?  The above video was during the Beta.

Have to admit though, the image did seem softer so maybe I had it it set to maximum bitrate before?