PS and LR pc

[19_blackie_73]

Hey guys,

 

a friend of mine needs a new pc, only purpose is Lightroom and Photoshop as she is a professional photographer. No peripherals or windows needed, also storage is excluded. Budget is 700€ in germany.
My instinct says sth like the 8700 because of the ipcs, and maybe a 1050 at max as a video card or go with onboard video. case should be as casual and stealth as possible and have at least 2 3.5 inch bays.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks for any input!

[m0n4rchy]

7 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Hey guys,

 

a friend of mine needs a new pc, only purpose is Lightroom and Photoshop as she is a professional photographer. No peripherals or windows needed, also storage is excluded. Budget is 700€ in germany.
My instinct says sth like the 8700 because of the ipcs, and maybe a 1050 at max as a video card or go with onboard video. case should be as casual and stealth as possible and have at least 2 3.5 inch bays.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks for any input!

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QfcHnH

[19_blackie_73]

1 minute ago, m0n4rchy said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QfcHnH

thanks
wouldn't be the i7 better?

[Origami Cactus]

1 minute ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

thanks
wouldn't be the i7 better?

It would be, but it would be harder to incorporate into that tight of a budget, because the cpu itself is 350€, then add 100€ for a motherboard, 150€ for ram, and the rest of the system has to come from a 100€, so in that case you would have to use the igpu. But then again lightroom and photoshop dont need a gpu that much, so that would be also a very good build.

I'll quickly make a build with an i7 for you.

[19_blackie_73]

1 minute ago, Origami Cactus said:

It would be, but it would be harder to incorporate into that tight of a budget, because the cpu itself is 350€, then add 100€ for a motherboard, 150€ for ram, and the rest of the system has to come from a 100€, so in that case you would have to use the igpu. But then again lightroom and photoshop dont need a gpu that much, so that would be also a very good build.

I'll quickly make a build with an i7 for you.

maybe an i5 will do too, dunno:)

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

maybe an i5 will do too, dunno:)

here is a nice and neat mini itx build, but it doesnt have any storage:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/KwfyLJ

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

here is a nice and neat mini itx build, but it doesnt have any storage:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/KwfyLJ

Here is a version with an i5 8400, still a 6 core cpu, and you dont need an i7 for photoshop:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ngjHnH

 

[19_blackie_73]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Here is a version with an i5 8400, still a 6 core cpu, and you dont need an i7 for photoshop:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ngjHnH

 

thanks, looks promising:)
I'll look into it, you helped me a lot!

[brob]

This is a touch over budget.

 

Uses the stock cpu cooler. 

 

No need for faster memory as locked Coffee Lake i5 and i7 will not run memory faster than DDR4-2666.

 

A discrete gpu will improve productivity.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor  (€255.74 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€73.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€146.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  (€163.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€33.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€45.00) 
Total: €719.54
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[Origami Cactus]

Just now, brob said:

This is a touch over budget.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor  (€255.74 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€73.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€146.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  (€163.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox E300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€33.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€45.00) 
Total: €719.54
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-18 19:48 CEST+0200

i like my itx build more.

If you are building for someone else always use a nice case, not some crappy looking coolermaster. 

Then the person you are building it for is much happier with the result,

also the gtx 1050ti is very unneccessary for a photoshop only build, the igpu will suffice.

[brob]

7 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

i like my itx build more.

If you are building for someone else always use a nice case, not some crappy looking coolermaster. 

Then the person you are building it for is much happier with the result,

also the gtx 1050ti is very unneccessary for a photoshop only build, the igpu will suffice.

A discrete gpu may not be "necessary", but for a professional time is money and it will definitely improve productivity. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-NVIDIA-GeForce-GPU-Performance-899/

 

A professional user is much more interested in performance than how nice the insides of their black box looks. Windowed cases are a waste of resources, especially in a budget build. Besides, case aesthetics are very much personal preference.

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, brob said:

A discrete gpu may not be "necessary", but for a professional time is money and it will definitely improve productivity. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-NVIDIA-GeForce-GPU-Performance-899/

 

A professional user is much more interested in performance than how nice the insides of their black box looks. Windowed cases are a waste of resources, especially in a budget build. Besides, case aesthetics are very much personal preference.

Yeah 2 effects benefit from it, it is very necessary.

Anyways looking at the graphs gtx 1050, and probably gt 1030 is a much better buy that a gtx 1050ti, because the 1050ti and 1050 2gb are 0,4% from each other in performance.

 

But yeah i didn't know it was a windowed case, i would like it more if it had a non windowed version.

 

Anyways @19_blackie_73 choose a few cases and show them to your friend before buying, and ask which one he/she likes the most. That way you can be sure that they are happy with the result.

 

[brob]

@Origami Cactus, go back and review the data, all but two of the tested functions benefit significantly from a discrete gpu. I do agree that a GTX 1050 would be a reasonable choice.

 

[SHROUD]

55 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

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12 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

....

 

 

8 minutes ago, brob said:

@Origami Cactus

 

Build something like this......

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€332.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370M D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.57 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€146.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Video Card  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (€35.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€43.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €723.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-18 20:15 CEST+0200

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

 

Build something like this......

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€332.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370M D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.57 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€146.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Video Card  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (€35.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€43.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €723.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-18 20:15 CEST+0200

Yeah that is a good build.

Probably the best so far.

[19_blackie_73]

31 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Anyways @19_blackie_73 choose a few cases and show them to your friend before buying, and ask which one he/she likes the most. That way you can be sure that they are happy with the result.

yeah i will do, it's in the early stages of planning and I need a rough idea what we need to spend or what the options are. you all helped me a lot @Origami Cactus @SHROUD@brob

 

19 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

Build something like this......

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€332.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370M D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.57 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€146.83 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Video Card  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (€35.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€43.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €723.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-18 20:15 CEST+0200

looks good

[SHROUD]

Just now, 19_blackie_73 said:

looks good

Yup indeed...

 

Good luck with your build...??

[Origami Cactus]

1 minute ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

yeah i will do, it's in the early stages of planning and I need a rough idea what we need to spend or what the options are. you all helped me a lot @Origami Cactus @SHROUD@brob

 

looks good

Good luck with the build!

[brob]

I think a GTX 1050 would be the lowest power discrete gpu worth using in this build.

 

[19_blackie_73]

5 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

Yup indeed...

 

Good luck with your build...??

 

5 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Good luck with the build!

thanks

2 minutes ago, brob said:

I think a GTX 1050 would be the lowest power discrete gpu worth using in this build.

 

We'll see what the budget allows, the thing I'm struggling with is the poor value of the gt1030 but the savings are at the point where I'm at least considering it

[SHROUD]

3 minutes ago, brob said:

I think a GTX 1050 would be the lowest power discrete gpu worth using in this build.

 

Yes, I agree light room benefits from cuda cores. 

But having a better cpu on the first hand will be better. GPU can be upgraded whenever needed.

Also, u hv to work within the budget provided by the customer.