Incredibly Annoying Lag Issue

[Halbo]

Hello, I've had a very bad lag issue spreading across all games for around 6 months now and am still yet to find a solution. The lag includes a much lower FPS, choppiness and what i would describe as input lag or delayed mouse movements.

 

Specs - 
GPU - GTX 1060 6GB
CPU - Intel i5 7600k 
RAM - 16gb DD4
Mobo - Asrock Z270
OS - Windows 10

 

So, approximately 6 months ago I moved house and in the process of transferring my computer my CPU fan fell off without me noticing, my CPU was running at 100 degrees for a a fair amount of time (2 or so hours, possible more cant really remember), however my computer didn't shut off. After realising performance was drastically lower in games, I then checked my CPU temperatures and that's when i noticed it was at 100 degrees, so i then put the fan back on and reapplied thermal paste.

 

I assumed it would be done there, my temperatures were back to normal (30-45 degrees, while playing games such as CSGO, Rust, etc.) However the bad performance continued. I was very confused, so a week-ish later I opened up my computer again and re seated cpu, gpu and memory, while doing this i accidentally broke 2 of the RAM slots on the motherboard (very stupid, I know), i have had this issue before on another motherboard a long time ago and it didn't cause lag so i doubt that could be the reason for the lag especially since it out dates the lag itself, however i might be wrong? 

 

I thought maybe the overheating might have damaged the CPU, however i have been told that is very unlikely and i have also done the Intel diagnostic test and the CPU passed all of the tests (https://imgur.com/a/KUk0aB1)

 

I have also tried a full wipe of windows, including wiping partions
 

Its been roughly 6 months and I am becoming incredibly sick of it, if i can't fix it soon i'm just going to buy a whole new PC, however would prefer not to spend $1000+ if possible.

 

Would really appreciate ANY help, suggestions or advice

 

Thanks.

 

 

[DocSwag]

Try wiping GPU drivers with DDU and then reinstalling them. Worst comes to worse a reinstall of windows would probably fix it unless it's a serious hardware issue (which I personally doubt)

[Halbo]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Try wiping GPU drivers with DDU and then reinstalling them. Worst comes to worse a reinstall of windows would probably fix it unless it's a serious hardware issue (which I personally doubt)

Sorry, i forgot to mention that i have done a full windows reset including wiping partitions, thank you for the driver suggestion, i will definitely try that.

[STRESSMASTER]

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4 minutes ago, Halbo said:

Sorry, i forgot to mention that i have done a full windows reset including wiping partitions, thank you for the driver suggestion, i will definitely try that.

 

What are your current CPU package temps? 100 degrees can melt solder and it sounds like this may have happened killing some of the mobo transistors buy melting the solder points together. I just wasn't enough to prevent operation but is probably making the pc redo calculations due to errors in the previous one.

 

can you try cpu in a differrent mobo? or a different cpu in that mobo? that will tell you which is the issue.

[Halbo]

1 minute ago, STRESSMASTER said:

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What are your current CPU package temps? 100 degrees can melt solder and it sounds like this may have happened killing some of the mobo transistors buy melting the solder points together. I just wasn't enough to prevent operation but is probably making the pc redue calculations due to errors in the previous one.

Current CPU temp is surprisingly REALLY low. (https://imgur.com/a/w12Q6Fy)

[STRESSMASTER]

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2 minutes ago, Halbo said:

Current CPU temp is surprisingly REALLY low. (https://imgur.com/a/w12Q6Fy)

 

show me that with cpu usage while under load. also inc voltage it is getting.

so put cpu under 100% load

wait 10 min to allow heat to equalize

than get temps of package and each core

also voltage of cpu under full load

[DocSwag]

9 minutes ago, Halbo said:

Sorry, i forgot to mention that i have done a full windows reset including wiping partitions, thank you for the driver suggestion, i will definitely try that.

Does anything ever crash at all? Also, is FPS still the same?

3 minutes ago, Halbo said:

Current CPU temp is surprisingly REALLY low. (https://imgur.com/a/w12Q6Fy)

What are the temps of your room right now?

6 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

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What are your current CPU package temps? 100 degrees can melt solder and it sounds like this may have happened killing some of the mobo transistors buy melting the solder points together. I just wasn't enough to prevent operation but is probably making the pc redo calculations due to errors in the previous one.

 

can you try cpu in a differrent mobo? or a different cpu in that mobo? that will tell you which is the issue.

Solder melts around 180C not 100C

[STRESSMASTER]

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Does anything ever crash at all? Also, is FPS still the same?

What are the temps of your room right now?

Solder melts around 180C not 100C

 

yes i know temp solder melts but that doesn't say there wasn't a hot spot or small short.

[DocSwag]

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yes i know temp solder melts but that doesn't say there wasn't a hot spot or small short.

Wait then why did you say 100C melts solder?

 

I'm not sure I see how a hot spot would do anything or a small short could result. Plus that 100C is only on the CPU, not of the mobo.

[Halbo]

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show me that with cpu usage while under load. also inc voltage it is getting.

so put cpu under 100% load

wait 10 min to allow heat to equalize

than get temps of package and each core

also voltage of cpu under full load

I will test it now

[STRESSMASTER]

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6 minutes ago, Halbo said:

Current CPU temp is surprisingly REALLY low. (https://imgur.com/a/w12Q6Fy)

 

my concern is if the cpu is damaged than it maybe throttling or even turnong off a core. in the bios did you turn off speed step and power saving tech? It may help

[STRESSMASTER]

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2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Wait then why did you say 100C melts solder?

 

I'm not sure I see how a hot spot would do anything or a small short could result. Plus that 100C is only on the CPU, not of the mobo.

 

I have seen cpu's at 100c fry due to this. from what I understand the metal expanded or warped a little causing a short.

[STRESSMASTER]

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2 minutes ago, Halbo said:

I will test it now

 

Also while putting cpu under full load watch to be sure it is not throttling.

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

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I have seen cpu's at 100c fry due to this. from what I understand the metal expanded or warped a little causing a short.

Some CPUs do, it depends on the lithography. Some nodes are better at handling higher heat while others aren't. I believe it's more dependent on the transistors in the CPU itself. 

[STRESSMASTER]

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2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Some CPUs do, it depends on the lithography. Some nodes are better at handling higher heat while others aren't. I believe it's more dependent on the transistors in the CPU itself. 

 

correct it can also be from were on the wafer the cpu came from. That is why i am having him do a bench test to see temps load and also if it throttles

[Halbo]

@STRESSMASTER @DocSwag

 

https://imgur.com/a/KU3LwGs

[STRESSMASTER]

@Halbo

did you see all 4 cores at 100%?

did you watch task manager to see if it is throttling? (turns down GHz frequency) It may do this even if not over heating if it has a short.

what was full load volages

[Halbo]

28 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Does anything ever crash at all? Also, is FPS still the same?

What are the temps of your room right now?

Solder melts around 180C not 100C

Nothing really crashes and FPS lower, sometimes in CS it drops down to 100 or below when previously it would be a stable 270-300, however other times it will stay at 200, either way it is still very laggy with what feels like input lag and delayed movement, CS is not the only game it happens in.

[Halbo]

2 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

@Halbo

did you see all 4 cores at 100%?

did you watch task manager to see if it is throttling? (turns down GHz frequency) It may do this even if not over heating if it has a short.

what was full load volages

- All 4 cores stay between 95-100%

- No throttling 

- https://imgur.com/a/fU9du24 - thats a screenshot of the voltage section, because i have no idea what to look for.

[STRESSMASTER]

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1 minute ago, Halbo said:

- All 4 cores stay between 95-100%

- No throttling 

- https://imgur.com/a/fU9du24 - thats a screenshot of the voltage section, because i have no idea what to look for.

 

it is undervolting 3 cores but not by much. they should be 1.2 solid normally not 1.1

 

go to bios and disable speed stepping and all cpu power saving features and retest

[Halbo]

7 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

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it is undervolting 3 cores but not by much. they should be 1.2 solid normally not 1.1

 

go to bios and disable speed stepping and all cpu power saving features and retest

I can't find speedstep in BIOS, do you know where it is?

[Halbo]

@STRESSMASTER never mind I found it

[STRESSMASTER]

@Halbo

also turn off the power states like s5

[Halbo]

@STRESSMASTER It is still running at 1.085, do you think there's a chance the problem could be because of ram?

[STRESSMASTER]

@halbo

doubtful but possible

is it running at  that under full load? the voltage increases under load.

also this time watch the resource monitor for the cpu and see if it throttles.