Stutter in Games

[DarkGoblin963]

So i have a Gtx 1060 6gb paired with an i5 8400 and 8gb of ram and i am getting random stuttering in some games i am playing, Here's a list of the games that give me this random stuttering:

-Assassin's creed origins on ultra high settings except shadows set to Very high

-Assassin's creed unity max settings except AA set on FXAA

-Call Of duty World war 2 max settings except for AA (random stutters mostly in cutscenes)

-Call of duty Black ops 3 literally unplayable even on high settings

Anything except these games is just fine on max settings with good framerates Also note that vsync is off in all of these games and i set max pre-rendered frames to 1 in nvidia control panel.

[ivan134]

Need more ram just likely

[ivan134]

Either that or those games don't play nice when you have only one stick of Ram. But another 8gb stick and see if your problem is fixed

[runfaster]

Sounds like your computer is doing something else in the background while the game is playing.  Try disabling anti-virus or windows apps while you're gaming.

[DarkGoblin963]

6 hours ago, runfaster said:

Sounds like your computer is doing something else in the background while the game is playing.  Try disabling anti-virus or windows apps while you're gaming.

The only Anti-virus that is running is windows defender, And by the way i am using one stick of 8gb ram not two 4gb sticks.

 

[DarkGoblin963]

Update: now rise of the tomb raider is a stuttering mess, running max settings with vsync off and AA set to FXAA

[xAcid9]

37 minutes ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

And by the way i am using one stick of 8gb ram not two 4gb sticks.

That mean you're running single channel mode, some open world game love fast memory so running them in dual channel is preferable. 

 

Also can you collect some logs so easier for us to troubleshoot?

 

[Rackooo]

You litteraly just counted the worst optimized games. I get stuttering on bo3 too and i mean unplayable stutter. A bit of stutter is present on ww2 also. 

 

And rottr (specialy the benchmark in the second scene) is a stuttery mess when you get to the russian compound and geothermal valley. Shadow of the thomb raider has been fixed.

 

I fixed most of the stutters except for bo3 and rottr by reverting win 10 to 1607.

 

So try that first. 

 

I have a ryzen 2700x with 16gb of trident z and aorus gtx 1080

[Ali18]

On 9/10/2018 at 10:25 PM, runfaster said:

Sounds like your computer is doing something else in the background while the game is playing.  Try disabling anti-virus or windows apps while you're gaming.

This is a good point. I used to use a 3rd party anti virus software. I removed it and use windows defender only. Games are running much more smoother. 

[DarkGoblin963]

On 9/11/2018 at 1:31 PM, xAcid9 said:

That mean you're running single channel mode, some open world game love fast memory so running them in dual channel is preferable. 

 

Also can you collect some logs so easier for us to troubleshoot?

 

I did what the post says and uploaded the results here, also for some reason in the second log it doesn't show framerate drops but i was definetely noticing frame drops in game, Assassin's creed origins settings max except AA low and vsync off frame limiter set to 60 in game EDIT: ran 2 tests with call of duty ww2 since it shows a better example of what is happening, and i am shook after seeing that Memory usage can reach up to 5.8GB damn that's a lot.

DxDiag.txt

 

HardwareMonitoring.hml

[xAcid9]

31 minutes ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

I did what the post says and uploaded the results here, also for some reason in the second log it doesn't show framerate drops but i was definetely noticing frame drops in game

Your frame time is pretty bad. Did you just installed MSI Afterburner when i show you that thread or you already have installed previously?

[DarkGoblin963]

33 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Your frame time is pretty bad. Did you just installed MSI Afterburner when i show you that thread or you already have installed previously?

I had installed it previously, Also can you explain to me what is frametime and what is the issue that is causeing bad frame time?? how can i fix this? does it have to do with stutter?

[DarkGoblin963]

I just hope the only issue here is ram and not any other component

[xAcid9]

7 hours ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

I had installed it previously, Also can you explain to me what is frametime and what is the issue that is causeing bad frame time?? how can i fix this? does it have to do with stutter?

7 hours ago, DarkGoblin963 said:

I just hope the only issue here is ram and not any other component

I don't know how to explain this accurately but frame timing or frame pacing or frame latency is a measurement on how each frame is delivered. 

Imagine 2 different systems, both give you a steady 60 FPS(frame per second) but one of the system is noticeably less fluid than the other. Turns out the less fluid system delivered it's frames sporadically which is either too fast or too slow or usually both. 

 

Spoiler

 

Although both card give the same fps but 6870 is visually less smooth because of that irregular frame pacing. 

https://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking

 

 

Those games you've listed is actually VRAM/RAM intensive and AC:O is CPU intensive because of it crappy triple dual DRM. COD have been eating VRAM/RAM like snacks since Advanced Warfare i think. That's why in this game AMD cards mostly outperformed equivalent Nvidia cards in recent years because of their higher memory bandwidth. 

 

1. Since you're running on single channel mode, try grab another stick and make it dual channel to theoretically double the bandwidth. Many open world games love fast RAM/bandwidth.

2. Try close MSI Afterburner while playing games or disable POWER monitoring in Settings which actually a known issue for Nvidia driver.

 

 

You can use FRAPS record to log the FPS and Frametime and then use FRAFS to create a frametime graph. 

[DarkGoblin963]

6 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

I don't know how to explain this accurately but frame timing or frame pacing or frame latency is a measurement on how each frame is delivered. 

Imagine 2 different systems, both give you a steady 60 FPS(frame per second) but one of the system is noticeably less fluid than the other. Turns out the less fluid system delivered it's frames sporadically which is either too fast or too slow or usually both. 

 

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Although both card give the same fps but 6870 is visually less smooth because of that irregular frame pacing. 

https://techreport.com/review/21516/inside-the-second-a-new-look-at-game-benchmarking

 

 

Those games you've listed is actually VRAM/RAM intensive and AC:O is CPU intensive because of it crappy triple dual DRM. COD have been eating VRAM/RAM like snacks since Advanced Warfare i think. That's why in this game AMD cards mostly outperformed equivalent Nvidia cards in recent years because of their higher memory bandwidth. 

 

1. Since you're running on single channel mode, try grab another stick and make it dual channel to theoretically double the bandwidth. Many open world games love fast RAM/bandwidth.

2. Try close MSI Afterburner while playing games or disable POWER monitoring in Settings which actually a known issue for Nvidia driver.

 

 

You can use FRAPS record to log the FPS and Frametime and then use FRAFS to create a frametime graph. 

could ram cause this much stutter i mean another example is AC unity which is stuttering  even more than AC origins is which is really weird... Could ram cause this many problems in like 5 games??

[voiha]

On 9/10/2018 at 2:34 PM, DarkGoblin963 said:

So i have a Gtx 1060 6gb paired with an i5 8400 and 8gb of ram and i am getting random stuttering in some games i am playing, Here's a list of the games that give me this random stuttering:

-Assassin's creed origins on ultra high settings except shadows set to Very high

-Assassin's creed unity max settings except AA set on FXAA

-Call Of duty World war 2 max settings except for AA (random stutters mostly in cutscenes)

-Call of duty Black ops 3 literally unplayable even on high settings

Anything except these games is just fine on max settings with good framerates Also note that vsync is off in all of these games and i set max pre-rendered frames to 1 in nvidia control panel.

I have stutters in Assassin's creed Origins too, from extensive research I ended understanding that they tried implementing anti-piracy method that actually f*cks your CPU, while the game is extremely heavy on the CPU the GPU can't go to 100% usage thus your CPU bottlenecks your GPU. You can actually see that in task manager while the game runs, CPU is 100% gpu in my case is only 60%. The only real fix is buying better CPU or lowering graphics settings. Actually I stopped playing AC: origins solely because of the reason that the game wants to fry my CPU.

I had stutters in Call of duty too, it is because of RAM leaks and usage, 16GB of ram helps there but again it's more of bad optimization than actual weak PC components.

[DarkGoblin963]

On 9/19/2018 at 4:10 PM, voiha said:

I have stutters in Assassin's creed Origins too, from extensive research I ended understanding that they tried implementing anti-piracy method that actually f*cks your CPU, while the game is extremely heavy on the CPU the GPU can't go to 100% usage thus your CPU bottlenecks your GPU. You can actually see that in task manager while the game runs, CPU is 100% gpu in my case is only 60%. The only real fix is buying better CPU or lowering graphics settings. Actually I stopped playing AC: origins solely because of the reason that the game wants to fry my CPU.

I had stutters in Call of duty too, it is because of RAM leaks and usage, 16GB of ram helps there but again it's more of bad optimization than actual weak PC components.

Yeah i guess, Because my cpu is pinned at 100% usage while gpu doesn't even reach 70% usage and call of duty was fixed by lowering some settings(anti aliasing and shadow quality) and ROTR was fixed by turning off DX12 for some reason and also note that other games like GTA 5 and fallout 4 i have played hours of without noticing any stuttering so yeah.