Birthday; new rig :)

[Papi]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/v2C8P3

My questions are - 

Will the Dark Rock 4 be enough to cool 8700k? 

Will Dark Rock Pro fit in the InWin A1?

or should I wait for 9700k for the 10-15% more efficiency

 

I currently own: 

i3 6100 & 1060 6gb

I'd like to take advantage of Black Desert Online's new remastered settings. (CPU intensive and gorgeous game btw) 

My reason for upgrade is to stop having my youtube videos buffer every 10 seconds in 1080p when playing BDO.  I get 30FPS in cities and drop down to low as 15FPS while grinding/pvp. Wanting to participate in Node Wars aswell but 100 players in combat and being able to react to abilities/situations is barely playable in optimal settings. 

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

[jiyeon]

Happy birthday! The build looks nice and all the parts are great choices.

 

Regarding the 9700K, it apparently has 8C/8T versus the 8700K which has 6C/12T so it depends on your use case, I suppose.

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, Papi said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/v2C8P3

My questions are - 

Will the Dark Rock 4 be enough to cool 8700k? 

Will Dark Rock Pro fit in the InWin A1?

or should I wait for 9700k for the 10-15% more efficiency

 

Thanks in advance!  

 

Why that case?

 

You should just go for Ryzen and a 1070ti/1080 or find a used 1080ti soon enough and save like $900
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xkQdMZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xkQdMZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($230.48 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($201.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($175.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($122.92 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($599.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1331.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 03:42 EDT-0400

[Uptivuptiz]

If you are doing productivity work then I would suggest waiting for the 9700k. However if you lean more to the gaming side (which I assume that you do, since you have a 1080 Ti in the build) the 8700K is just fine.  

[AskTJ]

Using 1080Ti's can be found for very cheap, for $600 - $700 for the decent condition ones.

 

Your best off with a Ryzen system. A Ryzen 5 1600/2600 are great choices.

 

We also don't know anything about the upcoming Intel CPU's, so I doubt the 10 - 15 % more efficient fact is true.

[Papi]

3 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Why that case?

 

You should just go for Ryzen and a 1070ti/1080 or find a used 1080ti soon enough and save like $900
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xkQdMZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xkQdMZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($230.48 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($201.99 @ PC-Canada)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($175.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($122.92 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($599.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1331.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 03:42 EDT-0400

InWin A1 size and chi-charging appeals to me. 

I am not willing to get a used 1080ti that has possibly been mined on. Thanks for your suggestion! I will definitely add those Vulcan 16GB to my cart. 

3 hours ago, Uptivuptiz said:

If you are doing productivity work then I would suggest waiting for the 9700k. However if you lean more to the gaming side (which I assume that you do, since you have a 1080 Ti in the build) the 8700K is just fine.  

Good point, the 8700k will suffice more than 3 years or more for me. Anxious on pulling the trigger though because 9700k is just around the corner 1-2 months!  Curious how its benchmarks will be

 

4 hours ago, seoz said:

Happy birthday! The build looks nice and all the parts are great choices.

 

Regarding the 9700K, it apparently has 8C/8T versus the 8700K which has 6C/12T so it depends on your use case, I suppose.

Thank you !!

[brob]

If you plan to overclock a much better cpu cooler would be a good idea. Otherwise, the Cryorig H7 is less expensive and a touch better.

 

There is a small chance that two single module memory kits will not work in dual channel. It would be better to get a 2x8GB kit.

 

Instead of an i7-8700K, consider an i7-8700. Its turbo clocks are just 100MHz lower so performance is quite close to the i7-8700. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($404.58 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix H370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($176.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Kingston - 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($225.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($949.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Inwin - A1 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case w/600W Power Supply 
Case Fan: Inwin - AURORA Black / White (3-Pack) 57.6 CFM  120mm Fans 
Total: $2034.29
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 10:15 EDT-0400

[Papi]

1 hour ago, brob said:

If you plan to overclock a much better cpu cooler would be a good idea. Otherwise, the Cryorig H7 is less expensive and a touch better.

 

There is a small chance that two single module memory kits will not work in dual channel. It would be better to get a 2x8GB kit.

 

Instead of an i7-8700K, consider an i7-8700. Its turbo clocks are just 100MHz lower so performance is quite close to the i7-8700. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($404.58 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix H370-I Gaming Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($176.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Kingston - 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($225.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($949.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Inwin - A1 (White) Mini ITX Tower Case w/600W Power Supply 
Case Fan: Inwin - AURORA Black / White (3-Pack) 57.6 CFM  120mm Fans 
Total: $2034.29
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 10:15 EDT-0400

I heard some 8700 are duds where it only turbo boost to 4.3ghz 

[brob]

5 minutes ago, Papi said:

I heard some 8700 are duds where it only turbo boost to 4.3ghz 

Link?

 

Coffee Lake cpu have variable turbo clocks depending on the number of active cores. When all six cores are working both the i7-8700K and i7-8700 turbo clock is 4.3GHz. The i7-8700 also turbos to 4.3GHz when 4 and 5 cores are active while the i7-8700K turbos to 4.4GHz. See the table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake#Desktop_processors for more details.

 

[Papi]

1 hour ago, brob said:

Link?

 

Coffee Lake cpu have variable turbo clocks depending on the number of active cores. When all six cores are working both the i7-8700K and i7-8700 turbo clock is 4.3GHz. The i7-8700 also turbos to 4.3GHz when 4 and 5 cores are active while the i7-8700K turbos to 4.4GHz. See the table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake#Desktop_processors for more details.

 

Ive lost the forum where I read it at. 

I'm leaning towards overclocking the 8700k to 5ghz below 75C. Do you have any other cooler suggestions? Not many air coolers will fit my Inwin A1  

 

[brob]

The NH-D15S should fit the case. It has performance fairly close to the NH-D15.

 

If you want to hit 5GHz in a mini-ITX box, you might research deliding.