I need help with PC build

[sebasura]

Hi, I didn't know where to post this question 'cause there is no specific section for this, so if this is the wrong one, move it please.

I live in Chile and prices are around 40% higher compared to Amazon US. I was planning on building a Ryzen system, but the price is ridiculous (R5 1600 + 4GB DDR4 2400 MHz + B350 MoBo + Rx 580 8GB for $820). It's just too much, and it's not even the entire tower, plus it has only 4 GB of ram and it's 2400mhz, not 3000mhz. So... the best option for me atm is to buy used parts, but still they're too expensive or not in stock, so I need another option, which I think it's to just build an older PC capable of doing what i want. I don't really care about an upgrade path since I've never upgraded a PC, I always buy all the parts again (getting a new PC part is rare to me 'cause of the $$$$).

 

What I want:

- Play PUBG 1080p in low-mid if possible with max viewdistance (kind of a competitive environment, not a flashy pretty one)

- Play Overwatch and CSGO in mid-high which I think is very possible if I can play PUBG

What I need:

- To code in IntelliJ and test my programs using NodeJS and Tomcat servers (running React, Jenkins, SonarQube, Spring in the background)

- To emulate android with 3-4 instances of BlueStacks

What would be nice:

- To stream Overwatch and CSGO (I don't mind playing CSGO in lower res or details)

- To use Linux in a VM relatively smoothly, to code there while still in Windows

 

My current PC is this:

i5 3470 (I think it's not 100% in good state, 'cause it crashes when I do intensive work in MathLab, it even crashes sometimes while playing Smite. I think it's one of the cores... when I run them at full load, the system freezes completely and needs to be restarted)

8GB RAM @ 1333mhz

Radeon HD 7770 1 GHz

Asus P8P67-M PRO MoBo

Sentey 600w PSU (I think it's BRP 600) (This could also be the problem, not the CPU)

Sentey Case with 2 side fans, PSU on the bottom,dust filter on the bottom, grid on top... I could use this case.

 

I don't think I can use any of the parts I have besides the case. Maybe the RAM if the new build is old enough.

Thanks.

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Btw, 1 USD = 660 CLP

I use this website to view parts: https://www.solotodo.com/

So you can have an idea of the prices.

[AngryBeaver]

I have found in some areas where component prices are inflated(less available)... that buying a prebuilt system is often times either around the same price or slightly cheaper. I would do some digging around to see what prices are on them. Not sure which electronic stores you have available, but it might be a more cost efficient option

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Unrelated but that website (solotodo) sells gaming laptops for 700 (equals to 2 cad)

wait i can buy a gaming laptop for 2 cad??

[Jtalk4456]

well my first thought is your memory is slow, so it might not be your cpu dying

Either way, for the multitasking i'd get a ryzen 5 or 7 with at least 8 gb ram, preferrably 16

gpu's have come down a lot lately

as for the prices, I'd love to find something cheaper for you, but i need to know what cheaper is. What's your budget?

[sebasura]

56 minutes ago, 6thOntheLeft said:

Unrelated but that website (solotodo) sells gaming laptops for 700 (equals to 2 cad)

wait i can buy a gaming laptop for 2 cad??

I think you are confused by the decimal separator. $700.000 means $700,000, and that's roughly 1,060 USD.

59 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

I have found in some areas where component prices are inflated(less available)... that buying a prebuilt system is often times either around the same price or slightly cheaper. I would do some digging around to see what prices are on them. Not sure which electronic stores you have available, but it might be a more cost efficient option

I'm gonna look for that, thanks

48 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

well my first thought is your memory is slow, so it might not be your cpu dying

Either way, for the multitasking i'd get a ryzen 5 or 7 with at least 8 gb ram, preferrably 16

gpu's have come down a lot lately

as for the prices, I'd love to find something cheaper for you, but i need to know what cheaper is. What's your budget?

My budget is $750 USD tops, and that's stretching and waiting to have more money if necessary. My ideal budget is around $650.

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oh
okay

[Jtalk4456]

i'm at work and it won't let me look at amazon.cl or the site you posted, so i can't check the prices right now unless you know another website

[sebasura]

6 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

i'm at work and it won't let me look at amazon.cl or the site you posted, so i can't check the prices right now unless you know another website

That site (www.solotodo.com [means only everything, sólo = just, only; todo = everything]) shows the prices of a lot of Chilean stores. I don't need an exact build for my country, just a starting point to change parts that are not available here and stuff. I think my budget is around $450 in US prices. So and older PC that's $400-$450 and runs the mentioned above would do.

[Jtalk4456]

1 minute ago, sebasura said:

That site (www.solotodo.com [means only everything, sólo = just, only; todo = everything]) shows the prices of a lot of Chilean stores. I don't need an exact build for my country, just a starting point to change parts that are not available here and stuff. I think my budget is around $450 in US prices. So and older PC that's $400-$450 and runs the mentioned above would do.

that's a pretty tight budget. if the psu and the case are fine, those two should be salvaged to save you some money

I found a nice 6th gen i5 but it's on mercari, so yeah...

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m23824526513/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=860520439&utm_content=t0&adgroup=44259517100&network=g&device=c&merchant_id=117144132&product_id=m23824526513&product_id=295818637131&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI15SriYD_3AIVCIFpCh0ObwA5EAQYASABEgJl1PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CLrY9Y2A_9wCFUYUgQodQh0Aaw

Honestly I think without some serious digging, you're best bet is going to be saving up some more money

[sebasura]

Hmmm so I need more money v_v. The only PC I found for that budget is a Ryzen R5 2200G without a GPU and that's not worth it.

[Krosis]

5 hours ago, sebasura said:

Hi, I didn't know where to post this question 'cause there is no specific section for this, so if this is the wrong one, move it please.

I live in Chile and prices are around 40% higher compared to Amazon US. I was planning on building a Ryzen system, but the price is ridiculous (R5 1600 + 4GB DDR4 2400 MHz + B350 MoBo + Rx 580 8GB for $820). It's just too much, and it's not even the entire tower, plus it has only 4 GB of ram and it's 2400mhz, not 3000mhz. So... the best option for me atm is to buy used parts, but still they're too expensive or not in stock, so I need another option, which I think it's to just build an older PC capable of doing what i want. I don't really care about an upgrade path since I've never upgraded a PC, I always buy all the parts again (getting a new PC part is rare to me 'cause of the $$$$).

 

What I want:

- Play PUBG 1080p in low-mid if possible with max viewdistance (kind of a competitive environment, not a flashy pretty one)

- Play Overwatch and CSGO in mid-high which I think is very possible if I can play PUBG

What I need:

- To code in IntelliJ and test my programs using NodeJS and Tomcat servers (running React, Jenkins, SonarQube, Spring in the background)

- To emulate android with 3-4 instances of BlueStacks

What would be nice:

- To stream Overwatch and CSGO (I don't mind playing CSGO in lower res or details)

- To use Linux in a VM relatively smoothly, to code there while still in Windows

 

My current PC is this:

i5 3470 (I think it's not 100% in good state, 'cause it crashes when I do intensive work in MathLab, it even crashes sometimes while playing Smite. I think it's one of the cores... when I run them at full load, the system freezes completely and needs to be restarted)

8GB RAM @ 1333mhz

Radeon HD 7770 1 GHz

Asus P8P67-M PRO MoBo

Sentey 600w PSU (I think it's BRP 600) (This could also be the problem, not the CPU)

Sentey Case with 2 side fans, PSU on the bottom,dust filter on the bottom, grid on top... I could use this case.

 

I don't think I can use any of the parts I have besides the case. Maybe the RAM if the new build is old enough.

Thanks.

----------
Btw, 1 USD = 660 CLP

I use this website to view parts: https://www.solotodo.com/

So you can have an idea of the prices.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $462.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-21 18:58 EDT-0400

 

I don't think you need a dedicated GPU. Radeon Vega 11 is good enough to handle PUBG at 1080p on low/mid settings. It is also powerful enough to handle all the other tasks you mentioned. I think you should save up for a gpu and buy it later.

 

[Krosis]

10 minutes ago, Krosis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $462.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-21 18:58 EDT-0400

 

I don't think you need a dedicated GPU. Radeon Vega 11 is good enough to handle PUBG at 1080p on low/mid settings. It is also powerful enough to handle all the other tasks you mentioned. I think you should save up for a gpu and buy it later.

 

Prices from the website you linked:

CPU: RYZEN 5 2400G: $126.945

Motherboard: Changing to MSI B350M GAMING PRO: $55.328

RAM: Changing to 2x Kingston HyperX Fury 4GB 2666Mhz: $79.800

Storage: If you can't recycle from current pc, KINGSTON AV400 480GB: $68.990

Power Supply: EVGA 450BT: $31.900

 

Total: $326.963 or US$550

[Krosis]

2 hours ago, Jtalk4456 said:

that's a pretty tight budget. if the psu and the case are fine, those two should be salvaged to save you some money

I found a nice 6th gen i5 but it's on mercari, so yeah...

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m23824526513/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=860520439&utm_content=t0&adgroup=44259517100&network=g&device=c&merchant_id=117144132&product_id=m23824526513&product_id=295818637131&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI15SriYD_3AIVCIFpCh0ObwA5EAQYASABEgJl1PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CLrY9Y2A_9wCFUYUgQodQh0Aaw

Honestly I think without some serious digging, you're best bet is going to be saving up some more money

i wouldn't keep the PSU honestly. His current problem seems power supply related to me.

[Jtalk4456]

13 hours ago, Krosis said:

i wouldn't keep the PSU honestly. His current problem seems power supply related to me.

if the psu is the problem then no, but the cpu is too old to really keep if he's upgrading other things. depending on what that cpu and mobo can handle, his best bet might be to just buy some better ram for the system, toss a new gpu in and a ssd. if he gets into needing a new cpu and mobo, that budgets going to run thin real quick

[sebasura]

Yeah I could upgrade my current system, but I think it's a bad idea considering I won't be able to spend that much money on my PC anytime soon. I think my best option is to wait to have more money and in the meantime buy used stuff in good condition that won't need to be upgraded later (like RAM, a PSU, SSD, HDD).