Need a GPU for a prebuilt pc!

[iFusionz7]

Hello everybody, i was looking for a new graphics card for a prebuilt pc, i'm looking for something cheap because the pc has no gpu, will be great if i can make some light gaming aswell, things like cs go and fortnite.

This is the prebuilt model: Acer

Hope you can help me, thanks!

[3 Lions]

What is your budget? 

[Fasauceome]

can't go wrong with a 1050 or 1050 ti. small, efficient, convenient. gt 1030 gddr5 if you're on a shoestring budget, but getting a good 1050 form eBay is more valuable.

[iFusionz7]

Sorry, i forgot to mention that. The budget should be no more than 100 euro.

[Spotty]

7 minutes ago, iFusionz7 said:

This is the prebuilt model: Acer.

Your 1.5Ghz J4205 processor and 4GB of RAM are going to limit you. There's really not much point putting a GPU in it since it won't be able to game anyway.

[Origami Cactus]

Just now, iFusionz7 said:

Sorry, i forgot to mention that. The budget should be no more than 100 euro.

rx 550: https://www.amazon.de/Sapphire-11268-16-20G-Grafikkarte-Schwarz/dp/B077HWNM9H/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1534605377&sr=8-2&keywords=rx+550

or GT 1030: https://www.amazon.de/ASUS-Phoenix-PH-GT1030-O2G-Grafikkarte-Speicher/dp/B0727WGG3F/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1534605405&sr=8-2&keywords=gt+1030

[3 Lions]

Just now, iFusionz7 said:

Sorry, i forgot to mention that. The budget should be no more than 100 euro.

If you really want to add a dedicated GPU to this machine then you'll be looking at a used 750Ti from Ebay. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

Your 1.5Ghz J4205 processor and 4GB of RAM are going to limit you. There's really not much point putting a GPU in it since it won't be able to game anyway.

oh wow I didn't bother checking it out. Yeah, if it's that cheap, maybe a graphics card doesn't fit in the budget. Also, can the CPU be upgraded in that thing?

[iFusionz7]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Your 1.5Ghz J4205 processor and 4GB of RAM are going to limit you. There's really not much point putting a GPU in it since it won't be able to game anyway.

Not even on a very low resolution? Anyway i need a solution because this is what i got, i'm actually playing on it right now anyway so i need it to be just a bit better, something acceptable even at 30 fps.

 

EDIT  It has an integrated intel hd gpu.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, iFusionz7 said:

Not even on a very low resolution? Anyway i need a solution because this is what i got, i'm actually playing on it right now anyway so i need it to be just a bit better, something acceptable even at 30 fps.

the resolution isn't what will be the problem, because the graphics card will be mostly responsible for that. it's all of the other in-game calculations a terrible CPU can't handle. you wouldn't happen to know the motherboard name would you?

[3 Lions]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

can the CPU be upgraded in that thing?

No from doing some research on it, it uses BGA 1296. Most BGA CPU's these days are soldered to the mainboard.

[iFusionz7]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

the resolution isn't what will be the problem, because the graphics card will be mostly responsible for that. it's all of the other in-game calculations a terrible CPU can't handle. you wouldn't happen to know the motherboard name would you?

If i'm not wrong the processor is a quad core with a 2.6ghz boost, isn't that enough?

EDIT I'm not planning on playing the latest AAA games, just some very light games, or very old.

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, iFusionz7 said:

If i'm not wrong the processor is a quad core with a 2.6ghz boost, isn't that enough?

Yes it is a quad core but a Pentium Gold G5500 2C/4T absolutely cremes it...

 

 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-J4205-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5500/m221469vsm484140

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

No from doing some research on it, it uses BGA 1296. Most BGA CPU's these days are soldered to the mainboard.

"most?" I thought BGA was only soldered. "Ball grid array," with solder balls for connections

[iFusionz7]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Yes it is a quad core but a Pentium Gold G5500 2C/4T absolutely cremes it...

 

 http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-J4205-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5500/m221469vsm484140

Oh wow, i assume that's very bad haha. I guess there's no solution.

[3 Lions]

Just now, fasauceome said:

"most?" I thought BGA was only soldered. "Ball grid array," with solder balls for connections

Yes correct. 

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, iFusionz7 said:

If i'm not wrong the processor is a quad core with a 2.6ghz boost, isn't that enough?

EDIT I'm not planning on playing the latest AAA games, just some very light games, or very old.

well if you really do need a graphics card, the strongest one I can recommend without throwing money away due to a bottleneck is a gt 1030. A gtx 1050 would be a stretch, even the core 2 quad can only handle up to the 1050 before bottlenecking hard.

[iFusionz7]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

well if you really do need a graphics card, the strongest one I can recommend without throwing money away due to a bottleneck is a gt 1030. A gtx 1050 would be a stretch, even the core 2 quad can only handle up to the 1050 before bottlenecking hard.

Alright, that seems enough for me, how many watts does it needs?

On the model page it's says i have a 75W power supply, is that enough?

 

EDIT  65W, sorry

[Origami Cactus]

8 minutes ago, iFusionz7 said:

Alright, that seems enough for me, how many watts does it needs?

On the model page it's says i have a 75W power supply, is that enough?

 

EDIT  65W, sorry

gt 1030 is a 30W part, so your psu seems a bit too weak, but if you dont try you dont find out.

[iFusionz7]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

gt 1030 is a 30W part, so your psu seems a bit too weak, but if you dont try you dont find out.

But i just noticed on gt 1030 product specification page that needs a minimum of 300W. That's alot more than i have

[Origami Cactus]

1 minute ago, iFusionz7 said:

But i just noticed on gt 1030 product specification page that needs a minimum of 300W. That's alot more than i have

That is base on an assumption that you have a normal processor and lots of hdds etc.

With your 10W processor 65W psu should be enough, but 100W would be better.

[RAM555789]

Even if you could support a GTX 1030 you would still struggle to run most game including fortnite and CS:GO unless you downscaled the resolution and made it look like your playing on a mobile phone.

[iFusionz7]

2 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

Even if you could support a GTX 1030 you would still struggle to run most game including fortnite and CS:GO unless you downscaled the resolution and made it look like your playing on a mobile phone.

Then i assume would not be worth it. Thank you guys.

One last thing, where can i learn more about computer parts?

[RAM555789]

Just now, iFusionz7 said:

Then i assume would not be worth it. Thank you guys.

One last thing, where can i learn more about computer parts?

https://www.youtube.com/user/Techquickie

[Fasauceome]

Just now, iFusionz7 said:

Then i assume would not be worth it. Thank you guys.

One last thing, where can i learn more about computer parts?

right here, actually. explore threads about people building PCs for the first time, start your own about upgrading or building your PC, and watch linus tech tips videos of course.