Anything I could get cheaper?

[Hamface55]

Hello,

 

I need help with this list I made to upgrade my PC. I am not made of money but really need to upgrade some parts in my PC. I have a gtx 1060, FX 8350, 8gb ddr3 ram, Gigabyte 78-lmt-usb3 mother board and Raidmax viper gx case. I have really been struggling recently with this current setup. Newer games are starting to struggle more plus my pc runs pretty slow. I am also getting into heavy editing and so I really need to upgrade. Is this a good upgrade? Is there a way I could get it cheaper for the same performance? 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dtv2WD

[Rauten]

Link returns a 404 error.
What would your budget be?

[FastRDust]

just a cpu and ssd upgrade could help 

[Hamface55]

1 minute ago, Rauten said:

Link returns a 404 error.
What would your budget be?

Sorry about that. here is a link that works. My budget is below $600 but still wanna get the price as low as possible.

[Hamface55]

3 minutes ago, Rauten said:

Link returns a 404 error.
What would your budget be?

lol sorry I am an idiot here is the link https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dtv2WD

[Guest]

Get a dual-channel RAM kit and a different mobo. I'd recommend ASUS Prime Z370-A. It's one of the best budget Z370 boards.

[i_build_nanosuits]

17 minutes ago, Hamface55 said:

Hello,

 

I need help with this list I made to upgrade my PC. I am not made of money but really need to upgrade some parts in my PC. I have a gtx 1060, FX 8350, 8gb ddr3 ram, Gigabyte 78-lmt-usb3 mother board and Raidmax viper gx case. I have really been struggling recently with this current setup. Newer games are starting to struggle more plus my pc runs pretty slow. I am also getting into heavy editing and so I really need to upgrade. Is this a good upgrade? Is there a way I could get it cheaper for the same performance? 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dtv2WD

this would be better and would cost the same:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $595.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 07:36 EDT-0400

[Hamface55]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

this would be better and would cost the same:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $595.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 07:36 EDT-0400

Thanks! this is so much better!

[AskTJ]

Dual channel ram. A better case. An SSD.

[FastRDust]

3 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

Dual channel ram. A better case. An SSD.

A better Case?

how would that improve performance, or did you mean cheaper

[SliceT]

30 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

this would be better and would cost the same:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B360 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $595.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 07:36 EDT-0400

 

Would be better this one and would cost LESS

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDDmmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDDmmq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($219.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $500.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 08:06 EDT-0400

[Hamface55]

11 minutes ago, SliceT said:

 

Would be better this one and would cost LESS

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDDmmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDDmmq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($219.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $500.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-14 08:06 EDT-0400

Thank you I am going to go with this list!

[nick name]

25 minutes ago, Hamface55 said:

Thank you I am going to go with this list!

Find better RAM if you can. 2666MHz is a little low. 

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

Find better RAM if you can. 2666MHz is a little low. 

your not going to get a noticable difference with faster ram. maybe if you have a set with better timings but that is negligible.

[nick name]

1 minute ago, FastRDust said:

your not going to get a noticable difference with faster ram. maybe if you have a set with better timings but that is negligible.

Do you know what you are talking about? Or parroting other people?

[FastRDust]

7 minutes ago, nick name said:

Do you know what you are talking about? Or parroting other people?

Linus even did a video on this specific subject.

 

[nick name]

11 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

Linus even did a video on this specific subject.
i'm at work now so i cant send the link

I appreciate what he did with that video, but it is an older video and they gave no information beyond just speeds (timings matter). Ryzen architecture works through RAM and by that nature is bound by RAM speeds. 

 

 

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

I appreciate what he did with that video, but it is an older video and they gave no information beyond just speeds (timings matter). Ryzen architecture works through RAM and by that nature is bound by RAM speeds. 

 

 

but looking at his budget and the prices for higher speed RAM would be a challenge to get as well.

i mean if you can get higher why not?

but don't make it a main goal

[nick name]

His budget is $600 and the parts list he approved came in at $500. Absolutely spend a little more on faster speeds. And if he can a little more for Samsung b-die. He only needs $20 more for 3200MHz. 

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

His budget is $600 and the parts list he approved came in at $500. Absolutely spend a little more on faster speeds. And if he can a little more for Samsung b-die. He only needs $20 more for 3200MHz. 

then we in the netherlands get S****ed with pricing on that...

only $20? 

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

then we in the netherlands get S****ed with pricing on that...

only $20? 

Newegg has 3200MHz Hynix kits for $160 and that 2666MHz kit is $145. 

 

It's a no-brainer. 

 

And I am learning that prices outside of the US are terrible. I feel bad for my PC brethren across the globe.

[FastRDust]

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

Newegg has 3200MHz Hynix kits for $160 and that 2666MHz kit is $145. 

 

It's a no-brainer. 

Differences here are €149 2666Mhz and €364 for 3200

any case, yeah that's a better option then

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

this would be better and would cost the same:

 

no! the i7-8700 is far better than the Ryzen...it has much faster single core performance and similar multi-core performance...basically intel doing with 6 cores what AMD is doing with 8...the i7-8700 has a 4.6ghz boost on single and dual core load, and 4.3ghz all core turbo..

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3940vs3917

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

no! the i7-8700 is far better than the Ryzen...it has much faster single core performance and similar multi-core performance...basically intel doing with 6 cores what AMD is doing with 8...the i7-8700 has a 4.6ghz boost on single and dual core load, and 4.3ghz all core turbo..

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3940vs3917

this wil increase the cost considerably right?

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, FastRDust said:

this wil increase the cost considerably right?

 

about 90$ which represent 18%

 

There are cheaper B360 boards if needed though...so the difference could also be as little as 70$ if he choose a 79$ board to more acurately represent the 79$ AMD board in your list...which would be 14% more expensive than the Ryzen cheap, so better performance per $

 

Also Ryzen wants faster memory to perform.