Bottlenecking

[Mysticox]

Hi guys, im from spain and just joined the comunnity after several years of wathcing Linus and last year i built my first pc but have several problems wiith it that im gonna state.

 

First name my pc specs:

 

GPU: Asus Dual GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz BOX

 

RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2133 PC4-17000 8GB CL14

 

Storage: 1TB HARD DRIVE, just this.

 

MOTHER BOARD: Asus h270- plus prime

 

POWER SUPPLY: 600W

 

First problem: i feel my pc is bottlenecked in all games, pubg 60-80 fps when i see lots of reviews where 1060 gets to 90-110 easy. Csgo caped at 150-200 when other easy get to 250 easy. Tried to overclock the gpu but obly makes it smoother in those ranges so something is making it no pass the bottleneck.

 

Second problem, loading times, i know is because i need an ssd or Nvm.2. But read to the end.

 

Third problem: cant use internet or other programs while gaming cause fps suffer a lot, and im really dissaponted with performance.

 

So i want a solution , i now have a 600-800€ budget to upgrade the system i really want good answers and thought process on what i have to change. I need experts i dont want to make same mistakes as before. I also want to stream while gaming. I have read and watched lots of guides, i thought i needed 16 gb of ram, maybe change the cpu or both, only get ssd, i dont know.

 

i game at 1080p 24 inch 144hz panel so 1060 shoulf be fine for sports games not triple A games i dont play.

 

Thats all thx.

 

p.d: sorry for the posible mistakes, my native language aint english.

 

p.d.2: if this aint the place for this post plz some mod move it to where it should, as i said ita the first time posting.

Edited August 10, 2018 by Mysticox

[Sa1tama]

Personally i would go with this:

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700

Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-pro or Gigabyte X470 Aorous

RAM: any compatible DDR4 atleast 2666mhz kit 16GB

M.2 : samsung 970 Evo 250Gb

Also you could get a new CPU cooler like Noctua NH-D15 or AIO like NZXT X52

 

[Mysticox]

Thx for the info, i know the specs of all those components, but i would lile to alse hear the reasoning o those upgrades more than stating them, i can easy just waste the money but want to know why pick them instead of other or with lesser price.

[Lemtea]

2 minutes ago, Mysticox said:

Thx for the info, i know the specs of all those components, but i would lile to alse hear the reasoning o those upgrades more than stating them, i can easy just waste the money but want to know why pick them instead of other or with lesser price.

Have you tried tried the command to uncap fps in csgo?

Also makes sure that when you are comparing pubg fps numbers you are comparing the same graphics settings and game version. You need to make sure your are upgrading for the right reason not just because some dude on the internet has higher fps numbers than you. Although if you have the money burning a hole in your pocket go for it, it is ultimately your money that you are spending. 

[Sa1tama]

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700

The latest generation of AMD CPUs, has 8 cores and 16 threads which means that it's good not only for gaming, but also streaming and workstation use. Furthermore it supports AMD StorageMI, SenseMI and has an unlocked multiplier, which means that you can overclock it with any AM4 motherboard ( even b350 and b450 chipsets support OC ).

To top it all off, AMD announced that they would stick to AM4 socket till 2020, so it has great upgrade path in the future.

[Sa1tama]

Motherboard:

Asus Prime X470-pro or Gigabyte X470 Aorous 

Featurewise they are basicly same, both support 2gen Ryzen CPUs out of the box and have solid VRMs ( 8+3 phase power delivery ) which mean that they are great overclockers, they support Sli/CrossFire, have NVMe M.2 slots and etc... ( Also they both have RGB lighting and WaterCooling support )

[Guest]

Before you change your CPU and so on,  go get an SSD. It's the first thing you should upgrade in your PC. 

[Sa1tama]

RAM: 2x8gb kit 3200mhz with low latency

You can choose RAM yourself depending on the colours and all, but while shopping please look carefully at RAM Latency, because all Zen CPUs love low latency & high frequency RAM. ( because of technology AMD calls InfinityFabric )

[Sa1tama]

Storagewise I would go for M.2 SSDs because they are blazing fast and take up minimal space in the build, so if it were my choice i would go for Samsung 970Evo ( 250 or 500gb version, whichever you need )

[Mysticox]

14 minutes ago, Lemtea said:

Have you tried tried the command to uncap fps in csgo?

Also makes sure that when you are comparing pubg fps numbers you are comparing the same graphics settings and game version. You need to make sure your are upgrading for the right reason not just because some dude on the internet has higher fps numbers than you. Although if you have the money burning a hole in your pocket go for it, it is ultimately your money that you are spending. 

Not only fps problems, also i cant do multitasking while for example playing hearthstone that is a game thst lets you do other stuff.

[Peskanova]

35 minutes ago, Mysticox said:

 

RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2133 PC4-17000 8GB CL14

 

First problem: i feel my pc is bottlenecked in all games, pubg 60-80 fps when i see lots of reviews where 1060 gets to 90-110 easy. Csgo caped at 150-200 when other easy get to 250 easy. Tried to overclock the gpu but obly makes it smoother in those ranges so something is making it no pass the bottleneck.

Buenas y bienvenido!!!, pues mi novia juega con una 1060 y un 7500 y 8gb de ram y no tiene problemas, no te fies de la gente cuando dicen lo de los fps en el pubg, cambia mucho los ajustes como el escalado de pantalla etc...(yo juego con una 1070 165hz 1440p con un 4790k y voy de 80 a 120 , mi novia con los mismos specs los mismos fps que tu y gente con 1070 y 7600k pillan lo mismo que yo) 

Pues lo mejor seria comprarte 1ssd y un slot mas de ram(2 slots funcionan mejor que uno ya que acceden a la vez a los 2, dual channel) 

para ver si tienes algun cuello de botella tienes que ver si cuando juegas tu cpu se pone al 100% (no se pone porque si no se te congelaria el juego y  esos frapazos no podrias jugar) o si tu gráfica esta a menos del 90-100% (suelen ir 95% mas o menos) 

No mires el player ya te digo bajate el escalado de pantalla si lo tienes al 100 lo pones a  70 y veras como te suben los fps 20 mas.... pero no merece la pena

 

Cualquier cosa pregunta!!!

[Peskanova]

La putada es que tu placa es malilla, tendrias que pillarte minimo una b270 y tu procesador puede llegar al 100% eso jugando a un juego viendo 1 video en hq + algun programa de voz puede darte picos , pero la unica solucion es ponerse un i7 de tu generación poco mas, (y a mas fps quieras sacar mas uso le daras a la cpu).

 

Y controla la temperatura , nunca me han gustado esas dual de asus, si la cpu no te va al 100% puede ser cosa que la grafica se este undervolteando por temperatura, vigila la temperatura si esta a mas de 85 seguramente pasara eso...

[Mysticox]

3 hours ago, Peskanova said:

La putada es que tu placa es malilla, tendrias que pillarte minimo una b270 y tu procesador puede llegar al 100% eso jugando a un juego viendo 1 video en hq + algun programa de voz puede darte picos , pero la unica solucion es ponerse un i7 de tu generación poco mas, (y a mas fps quieras sacar mas uso le daras a la cpu).

 

Y controla la temperatura , nunca me han gustado esas dual de asus, si la cpu no te va al 100% puede ser cosa que la grafica se este undervolteando por temperatura, vigila la temperatura si esta a mas de 85 seguramente pasara eso...

Vale gracias, tengo dinero para mejorar y no quiero cambiar grafica porque van a salir las nuevas, voy a esperar hasta que no sirva la 1060, lo que si quiero es cpu, placa base, los 16 gb de ram y el ssd todo para que dire minimo 5 años, yo habia pensado entre el Ryzen 7 2700 y una b450 de msi de 129€ gaming pro carbon o el ryzen 5 2600 + la misma placa base que es la mejor precio calidad, lo dicen todos. Como lo ves?

[Peskanova]

3 hours ago, Mysticox said:

Vale gracias, tengo dinero para mejorar y no quiero cambiar grafica porque van a salir las nuevas, voy a esperar hasta que no sirva la 1060, lo que si quiero es cpu, placa base, los 16 gb de ram y el ssd todo para que dire minimo 5 años, yo habia pensado entre el Ryzen 7 2700 y una b450 de msi de 129€ gaming pro carbon o el ryzen 5 2600 + la misma placa base que es la mejor precio calidad, lo dicen todos. Como lo ves?

Yo si vas a jugar con 144 herz pillate un i7 o un r7 porque a mas herzios mas consumo de cpu, y el problema sera eso del 100%, todo el mundo te dira que un i5 o un 2600 esta de sobra para jugar, pero para jugar a 144fps o 165 o incluso 240 requiere mucha cpu, yo me cambie de 144 hz a 165 y noto el uso de la cpu.
Y eso del multitask es por lo mismo, si jugas al hearthstone limitate los fps del hearthstone a 60 y veras como si que pueedes hacer multitask, a mas fps tenga el juego peor te irá la cpu.
Yo si fuera tu mira a ver si puedes vender ese 7500 y ponerte un 7700 (sin la k porque tu placa tampoco es para hacer oc) y mira a ver como te va con eso, alomejor te ventilas todos los problemas, pero es raro ya te digo mi novia juega al second life y al lol a la vez mientras tiene musica y nunca se ha quejado que le fueera mal (y no le va mal)=