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[Philusaphur]

So I'm just wondering if this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tt9xbX is good enough. I might overclock it. Im just wondering if this is compatible with each other or if I can replace any parts for cheaper or better onces in the same price range.

[jiyeon]

Why Kaby Lake? You'd be much better off with an 8700K and Z370 motherboard.

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

So I'm just wondering if this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tt9xbX is good enough. I might overclock it. Im just wondering if this is compatible with each other or if I can replace any parts for cheaper or better onces in the same price range.

There's no reason to buy Kaby lake anymore

 

no reason to buy so many fans

Should get a case with actual airflow

What do you need the PC for and what monitor resolution/refresh rate will you be gaming at?
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JddC4q
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JddC4q/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport AT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($84.75 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($73.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($349.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $1216.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 21:41 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

get a newer coffeelake/ryzen cpu instead, better performance for the same price and it has more upgrade room. no ssd? don't spend so much on fans, a couple cheap ones paired with the included case fans will do. what's your budget?

[brob]

A six core i5-8600K has slightly better performance than a 4-core i7-7700K.

 

An H100i V2 will allow for better overclocking than the H7. It also adds two (intake) fans, eliminating the need for additional fans.

 

SSD for boot, system, and programs is a must.

 

Eliminating the unneeded Noctua fans and going with the latest cpu generation enables a gpu upgrade.

 

A 650W psu would be better for the build, especially if overclocking.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($165.82 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($218.44 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($609.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($23.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1756.10
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 22:01 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ PC-Canada) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($153.93 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H26 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1661.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 22:06 EDT-0400

[Philusaphur]

3 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

get a newer coffeelake/ryzen cpu instead, better performance for the same price and it has more upgrade room. no ssd? don't spend so much on fans, a couple cheap ones paired with the included case fans will do. what's your budget?

Well my budget is about $2000 Canadian and I already have an 250gb ssd, 1tb hardrive + 500gb hardrive. 

[Philusaphur]

2 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ PC-Canada) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($153.93 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H26 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1661.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 22:06 EDT-0400

Thank you I would've never thought of going for an i7-8700 all I knew was i7 7700k was the best thing out there.

[Philusaphur]

3 hours ago, seoz said:

Why Kaby Lake? You'd be much better off with an 8700K and Z370 motherboard.

Honestly thought the i7 7700k was the latest on the market...

[Philusaphur]

3 hours ago, Streetguru said:

There's no reason to buy Kaby lake anymore

 

no reason to buy so many fans

Should get a case with actual airflow

What do you need the PC for and what monitor resolution/refresh rate will you be gaming at?
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JddC4q
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JddC4q/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport AT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($84.75 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($73.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($349.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $1216.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 21:41 EDT-0400

Thanks for the build but. I'm more blue than red. This is a good build for my cousin who has a tight budget.

[Philusaphur]

3 hours ago, brob said:

A six core i5-8600K has slightly better performance than a 4-core i7-7700K.

 

An H100i V2 will allow for better overclocking than the H7. It also adds two (intake) fans, eliminating the need for additional fans.

 

SSD for boot, system, and programs is a must.

 

Eliminating the unneeded Noctua fans and going with the latest cpu generation enables a gpu upgrade.

 

A 650W psu would be better for the build, especially if overclocking.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($165.82 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($218.44 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($609.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($23.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1756.10
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 22:01 EDT-0400

 

3 hours ago, brob said:

A six core i5-8600K has slightly better performance than a 4-core i7-7700K.

 

An H100i V2 will allow for better overclocking than the H7. It also adds two (intake) fans, eliminating the need for additional fans.

 

SSD for boot, system, and programs is a must.

 

Eliminating the unneeded Noctua fans and going with the latest cpu generation enables a gpu upgrade.

 

A 650W psu would be better for the build, especially if overclocking.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($324.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($165.82 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($218.44 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($609.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($23.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1756.10
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-09 22:01 EDT-0400

I think i'm going to make something from both you and hermans build for the best PC. that's in my budget.

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

Thanks for the build but. I'm more blue than red. This is a good build for my cousin who has a tight budget.

well 9th gen intel parts are about to come out probably, might even be soldered, and the i5 8400 and i7 8700 are the best parts for coffee lake, and will do like 15-20fps more than ryzen in the average AAA game

 

but I wouldn't get an i5 8400 over an R5 2600 due to the lack of multi-threaded performance if it's ever needed.

[Philusaphur]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

well 9th gen intel parts are about to come out probably, might even be soldered, and the i5 8400 and i7 8700 are the best parts for coffee lake, and will do like 15-20fps more than ryzen in the average AAA game

 

but I wouldn't get an i5 8400 over an R5 2600 due to the lack of multi-threaded performance if it's ever needed.

Well I was just putting this together https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Philusaphur/saved/3v4hMp Do not worry about storage I got that handled. Is this good?

[Philusaphur]

Well this is what I got. I don't know If I can make this better.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKycGG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKycGG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($399.75 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($153.93 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H26 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($100.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1640.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-10 01:25 EDT-0400

[brob]

The i7-8700 doesn't need an H100i v2. Use something like the Cryorig H7.

 

Coffee Lake i5 and i7 have a stock memory speed of DDR4-2666. There is a performance benefit using at least DR4-2666 CL14.

 

 

[Philusaphur]

5 minutes ago, brob said:

The i7-8700 doesn't need an H100i v2. Use something like the Cryorig H7.

 

Coffee Lake i5 and i7 have a stock memory speed of DDR4-2666. There is a performance benefit using at least DR4-2666 CL14.

 

 

Something like this?
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KnsYmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KnsYmq/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($399.75 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport AT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  ($639.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H26 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($100.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - BFF-SCF-12025KK-RP 43.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1591.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-10 01:38 EDT-0400

[brob]

Better.

[Phentos]

1 minute ago, Philusaphur said:

Something like this?

Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport AT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($189.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

Do keep in mind that B360 boards only support up to 2666. You will not get the full benefit from 3000Mhz memory as in Z370.

[Streetguru]

17 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

 

Hang on, what's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Those fans are likely horrible, just spend a bit more and get an H500 or RL06 Pro

and for real, 9th gen is likely very close, can probably get an overclockable 6 core 12 thread CPU for the same price...maybe.
 

 

[Philusaphur]

Just now, Phentos said:

Do keep in mind that B360 boards only support up to 2666. You will not get the full benefit from 3000Mhz memory as in Z370.

Well is a good ram you suggest with about the same price range that is good for this?

[Philusaphur]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Hang on, what's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Those fans are likely horrible, just spend a bit more and get an H500 or RL06 Pro
 

 

Well im planning on just getting a 1440p 144hz monitor after finish this build. What fans do you suggest? Never mind. I never read the entire sentence before typing this.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

Well im planning on just getting a 1440p 144hz monitor after finish this build.

Exactly how long is that wait going to be to upgrade the monitor?

And it's likely better to just get a USB DVD drive, they should be around the same price

 

the cheapest decent one is the PX277N at $500 CAD
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/28TPxr/pixio-px277-n-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-px277-n

[Philusaphur]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Exactly how long is that wait going to be to upgrade the monitor?

 

the cheapest decent one is the PX277N at $500 CAD
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/28TPxr/pixio-px277-n-270-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-px277-n

A Month maybe. I'm still a 1080p 60hz pleb. 

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

A Month maybe. I'm still a 1080p 60hz pleb. 

Nvidia also announces new GPUs on the 20th most likely, so either the 1080ti will get a price drop, or it will be replaced by the 1180 at around it's MSRP

You picked a bad time to build a PC basically lol

I'd go for like a cheap RX 570 plus the monitor upgrade now, then upgrade to the like 1180/ti in the future to make full use of the 1440p 144hz display for AAA games at high+ anyways

[Philusaphur]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Hang on, what's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Those fans are likely horrible, just spend a bit more and get an H500 or RL06 Pro
 

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Hang on, what's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Those fans are likely horrible, just spend a bit more and get an H500 or RL06 Pro
 

 

I don't think the case you mentioned are compatible.