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Upgrading and Bottlenecking

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Hi Everyone,

 

I have been saving up some money recently, and would like to upgrade my system. 

 

Current Specs:

 

RX 470 @1300 MHZ 

Ryzen 5 1600 @3.8GHZ

16GB Dual Channel @2400MHZ

AsRock AB350 Pro4

EVGA 600B PSU

256GB SSD

1TB HDD

Acer GN246HL 144hz Monitor

 

I was thinking that currently the weakest link would be the graphics card, as my main use case is Gaming (Fortnite, Overwatch, Warframe etc)

It does pretty well at 144hz in these games, but i need to drop the detail down to low in fortnite to sustain the 144 fps.

I was thinking of upgrading to either a 1080, or waiting for the next generation of Nvidia card.

 

If you think that there is somewhere else in my system that should be upgraded instead, or if the the ryzen 5 1600 will bottlneck the 1080, please tell me.

 

Thanks. 

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Get a freesync monitor? Then you dont have to worry about hitting 144hz. 

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3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Get a freesync monitor? Then you dont have to worry about hitting 144hz. 

Sorry, I didn't put this right, I would like to upgrade my Performance for maxing out games, which the RX 470 is not currently able to do, while still keeping 144fps, i understand that a freesync monitor will help with keeping games smooth, but being being over 144fps is always going to be smoother than 80fps with freesync.

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1 minute ago, Rane_ said:

Sorry, I didn't put this right, I would like to upgrade my Performance for maxing out games, which the RX 470 is not currently able to do, while still keeping 144fps, i understand that a freesync monitor will help with keeping games smooth, but being being over 144fps is always going to be smoother than 80fps with freesync.

Smoother, yes. Better? Depends in who you are asking. Games will allways have FPS drops and freesync will negate that and remove any tearing.

 

2 minutes ago, Rane_ said:

I do actually!

A 1070 will serve you nicely. Though i would suggest Vega 56. Sell the 470 for a bit extra budget and get a freesync monitor. You will get the best of both worlds.

 

The 1070 option will offcourse be cheaper

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6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Smoother, yes. Better? Depends in who you are asking. Games will allways have FPS drops and freesync will negate that and remove any tearing.

 

A 1070 will serve you nicely. Though i would suggest Vega 56. Sell the 470 for a bit extra budget and get a freesync monitor. You will get the best of both worlds.

 

The 1070 option will offcourse be cheaper

Right, noted. also, i just looked it up and the 1070 ti is actually slightly cheaper than a vega 56 where i live, would you recommend the extra $30 or so to get the ti version? and then later on think about investing in a g-sync monitor? 

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1070ti?

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1 minute ago, Rane_ said:

Right, noted. also, i just looked it up and the 1070 ti is actually slightly cheaper than a vega 56 where i live, would you recommend the extra $30 or so to get the ti version? and then later on think about investing in a g-sync monitor? 

That would be a good option. Just keep in mind G-sync monitors are way more expencive than freesync ones. You will be paying 100-200 extra for the exact same. (Or more depending on which G-sync)

 

If the 1070ti is cheaper tham the vega then go for it. Vega is equivelent or the same to a 1070, it is worth it if it is only a little bit more than a 1070. Just keep in mind what i mentioned above. 

 

Personally id pick up a Vega, but i am partial to AMD, and i allready own a freesync monitor. 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

1070ti?

Released a while ago. It sits between the 1070 and 1080. And can be overclocked to match a stock 1080. My guess they released it to counter the mining market and hit the Vega 56 as it was a tiny bit faster than a 1070

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12 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

That would be a good option. Just keep in mind G-sync monitors are way more expencive than freesync ones. You will be paying 100-200 extra for the exact same. (Or more depending on which G-sync)

 

If the 1070ti is cheaper tham the vega then go for it. Vega is equivelent or the same to a 1070, it is worth it if it is only a little bit more than a 1070. Just keep in mind what i mentioned above. 

 

Personally id pick up a Vega, but i am partial to AMD, and i allready own a freesync monitor. 

Yeah it is pretty annoying that Nvidia force their strict specifications for all of the g-sync monitors but i guess it means that you'll never get a bad G-sync monitor, just an expensive one. Another problem is that finding stock for vega's can be kinda hard (unless amd have recently improved stock). Thank you for your help though, also do you think that a 1070 ti and ryzen 5 1600 make a good combo for high detail 1080p gaming?

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Just now, Rane_ said:

Yeah it is pretty annoying that Nvidia force their strict specifications for all of the g-sync monitors but i guess it means that you'll never get a bad G-sync monitor, just an expensive one. Another problem is that finding stock for vega's can be kinda hard (unless amd have recently improved stock). Thank you for your help though, also do you think that a 1070 ti and ryzen 5 1600 make a good combo for high detail 1080p gaming?

It wil indeed. The GPU will power through most games. 1600 will hold it a bit back in some titles, but is to be expected. You have the option to dl a CPU upgrade 2 years from now. Which i believe will be the next upgrade step

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2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

It wil indeed. The GPU will power through most games. 1600 will hold it a bit back in some titles, but is to be expected. You have the option to dl a CPU upgrade 2 years from now. Which i believe will be the next upgrade step

Great, thanks!

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