Cpu bottleneck

[madman0097]

So i am currently using i5 4440 with 4gb ddr3 ram with gtx 650, and i am planning to upgrade my graphics card to gtx 1080 or 1080 ti,i will mostly be using 1080p monitor but can upgrde in future. How bad bottleneck should i expect? Is it low or high please explain 

[IdiotPenguin]

It’ll bottleneck. I used to have a i5 4460 and a 1080 and the bottleneck was so bad. I suggest you go for a better cpu like a r5 2600 or some other good budget cpu

[madman0097]

11 hours ago, IdiotPenguin said:

It’ll bottleneck. I used to have a i5 4460 and a 1080 and the bottleneck was so bad. I suggest you go for a better cpu like a r5 2600 or some other good budget cpu

How bad was it in fps i cant get new cpu for few months, but i dont want to get lower gpu like 1060 which will be absolete in 2 years

[IdiotPenguin]

4 hours ago, madman0097 said:

How bad was it in fps i cant get new cpu for few months, but i dont want to get lower gpu like 1060 which will be absolete in 2 years

I can't really say EXACTLY how much it bottlenecks cuz that's like impossible but I can guess it was around 60-70% in games that are more CPU sided. I suggest you save up to buy them both at the same time or just buy a 1080ti and then save up for a new cpu and motherboard (I suggest Ryzen for now because they're the budget king and they have the best price to performance ratio). Some games that would bottleneck super hard would be BF1 and GTA 5 since they're more oriented towards cpu (Although I'd say GTA is more like half and half). In GTA 5 the map wouldn't load in at times and in BF1 the lag was insane and If I even tried to go to medium settings or higher I'd get like weird rainbow graphics and stuff. These are just examples of what I was experiencing and you're probably bound to have the same so just upgrade your cpu as well whenever you can.

 

 

[xAcid9]

17 hours ago, madman0097 said:

So i am currently using i5 4440 with 4gb ddr3 ram with gtx 650, and i am planning to upgrade my graphics card to gtx 1080 or 1080 ti,i will mostly be using 1080p monitor but can upgrde in future. How bad bottleneck should i expect? Is it low or high please explain 

If you can get 1080 Ti for a good price then go for it. Just because you have 1080p monitor doesn't mean you can't use higher resolution with DSR. 

 

The bottleneck will be pretty bad but that depend on games and settings. What game you'll be playing?

[SkilledRebuilds]

Get More Ram. 8GB (Get cheap stuff, as much as you can for less dollars (Used 2nd Hand) 8GB will do for now, 16GB would be perfect,....this will cause severe stuttering in game just having four GB of Memory with then wanting (Higher Details/Res with 1080Ti) and you want this......per frame....fast FPS.

1080Ti will stutter like a boss otherwise.
Use DSR (UpRES) to reduce CPU bottleneck stuttering (Extreme High FPS/CPU Loads at Lower (1080P) Res Gaming)

 

Or someone elses beast....
Buy a Used Ryzen1 Rig someone is selling due to upgrading to Ryzen 2, or similar story...

A Used Ryzen 1 platform + GTX1060/70? Great experience all round a better machine that your current one + 1080Ti, for similar dollars,.. a smoother experience for sure.

[madman0097]

3 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

If you can get 1080 Ti for a good price then go for it. Just because you have 1080p monitor doesn't mean you can't use higher resolution with DSR. 

 

The bottleneck will be pretty bad but that depend on games and settings. What game you'll be playin

3 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

If you can get 1080 Ti for a good price then go for it. Just because you have 1080p monitor doesn't mean you can't use higher resolution with DSR. 

 

The bottleneck will be pretty bad but that depend on games and settings. What game you'll be playing?

I currently have nier automata,dues ex series, watchdog series and witcher series and also 1080ti is too pricy so i am going with 1080

[madman0097]

2 hours ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Get More Ram. 8GB (Get cheap stuff, as much as you can for less dollars (Used 2nd Hand) 8GB will do for now, 16GB would be perfect,....this will cause severe stuttering in game just having four GB of Memory with then wanting (Higher Details/Res with 1080Ti) and you want this......per frame....fast FPS.

1080Ti will stutter like a boss otherwise.
Use DSR (UpRES) to reduce CPU bottleneck stuttering (Extreme High FPS/CPU Loads at Lower (1080P) Res Gaming)

 

Or someone elses beast....
Buy a Used Ryzen1 Rig someone is selling due to upgrading to Ryzen 2, or similar story...

A Used Ryzen 1 platform + GTX1060/70? Great experience all round a better machine that your current one + 1080Ti, for similar dollars,.. a smoother experience for sure.

I am getting used gtx 1080 coz in my country due to higher import duty on gpus the mrp of gpus are 1400 usd approx i am getting used 1080 at 30k inr(500+ usd) plus there arent much people selling ryzens coz very few people uses them and i am planning for 1440p gaming so 1060 is out of question

[Darkseth]

On 5.8.2018 at 9:26 PM, madman0097 said:

So i am currently using i5 4440 with 4gb ddr3 ram with gtx 650, and i am planning to upgrade my graphics card to gtx 1080 or 1080 ti,i will mostly be using 1080p monitor but can upgrde in future. How bad bottleneck should i expect? Is it low or high please explain 

Not possible to answer. What bottlenecks and how much (you ALWAYS will have a bottleneck) depends entirely on your used software + settings.

 

1080p okay, but also which games. CS:GO? You probably will have more than 300 fps, so bottleneck is out of question, even if there is one. Doesn't matter because: enough fps.

 

AC Origins (which scales very good with many cores/threads) will probably be a CPU Bottleneck, when you go GTX 1080 with high settings.

However, so what?! Either your CPU delivers enough fps for you, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it won't with any GPU, so GPU is not interesting for the CPU Bottleneck question ^^

 

If your GPU is bored, give it more to do. use DSR, you can go up to 4k resolution. Won't look just as native 4k, but it scales quite well, and it will indeed look alot sharper/cleaner (less flickering, more detail, etc). And your CPU Bottleneck should be gone for most games (there are still games, that can CPU Bottleneck in 4k resolution).

[madman0097]

9 hours ago, Darkseth said:

Not possible to answer. What bottlenecks and how much (you ALWAYS will have a bottleneck) depends entirely on your used software + settings.

 

1080p okay, but also which games. CS:GO? You probably will have more than 300 fps, so bottleneck is out of question, even if there is one. Doesn't matter because: enough fps.

 

AC Origins (which scales very good with many cores/threads) will probably be a CPU Bottleneck, when you go GTX 1080 with high settings.

However, so what?! Either your CPU delivers enough fps for you, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it won't with any GPU, so GPU is not interesting for the CPU Bottleneck question ^^

 

If your GPU is bored, give it more to do. use DSR, you can go up to 4k resolution. Won't look just as native 4k, but it scales quite well, and it will indeed look alot sharper/cleaner (less flickering, more detail, etc). And your CPU Bottleneck should be gone for most games (there are still games, that can CPU Bottleneck in 4k resolution).

Whats a dsr?

 

[SidM]

It will be a seriously bad bottleneck due to the fact that the monitor is 1080p one pls pls pls use on that is at least 2k or 4k to avoid serious bottleneckinng, if you dont, the performance change will give you only a few eextra frame. Upgrade cpu to atleast 6th or 7th gen for optimum results(Seriouly, bro ur using a1080ti, the power it gives is like super powerful).

[Spudbilly]

5 minutes ago, madman0097 said:

Whats a dsr?

 

Nvidias proprietary tech called dynamic super resolution...aka...your 1080p monitor can artificially display a higher resolution like 4k

 

Scaling van get weird though

[Spudbilly]

Get the 1080 ti....live with issues until you can afford either a 4790k minimum or an 8700k or ryzen 5 or ryzen 7....get minimum 8gb ram

[Darkseth]

8 hours ago, madman0097 said:

Whats a dsr?

 

Dynamic super resolution: https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

 

Pretty much Downsampling.

 

You enable it in the Driver, chose a smoothness (i recommend 20%~, except for x4.00 Factor, that should look best with 0-10%), and you can "chose" this resolution.

do NOT chose it in Desktop. You can let your Desktop at 1080p, start a Game, and chose the resolution you activated. And the Game will render in a higher resolution and should be scaled down to your Monitor Size. The Link shows, why it still looks better, despite same amount of pixels ^^ But it's very taxing.

 

Going from 1920x1080:

Factor x1.78 will allow you 2560x1440, since this is 178% of the resolution.

Factor x4.00 will quadruple the Resolution, making it into 4k UHD: 3840x2160. Doubling each side 2x2 = 4 ^^ That's how the Factor comes together.

 

Here's a Chart: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Tipps/DSR-Downsampling-1140676/

Left is the native Resolution you have, top is the Factor, and the meeting point will be the end-resolution that will be available.

 

If you want to see the "effect" at best, simply activate DSR x4.00 in settings, start a Game, and change resolution to 3840x2160^^