Team red gaming system update

[porina]

Currently I have an all AMD test system, and I really want to update to a Zen+ 2000 series CPU for further testing purposes. Logical choice is to get a 2700X and new X470 mobo, but it's a lot of cash for running a few personal interest benchmarks. I don't need that many cores just for testing, so I'm rethinking it, with the recent release of B450 mobos, of doing a more value refresh to the current system.

 

Current red system main parts are:

• 1700 stock
• Asus Prime X370-Pro
• Vega 56
• 4k 60Hz freesync monitor

Don't worry about the PSU/ram and other stuff. The thinking is, what's the value point if I want to rebuild as a 4k gaming system? In short, I need a B450 mobo + either 2600 or 2600X CPU.

 

Mobo wise I'm leaning towards the ASRock B450 ITX model, as I do want to re-use an ITX case. I don't want to buy MSI, and the Asus offering is much higher priced as usual. Any other ITX boards around yet?

 

There is enough room in the case I intend to move it into (NZXT Manta semi-customised) for the stock cooler of either 2600 or 2600X. I don't plan on overclocking for normal use but wouldn't rule out a 240mm AIO if it would make a tangible difference to CPU boosts. This is in part why I don't want to get a 2000 CPU and put it in the existing X370 mobo as the boost feature wont work.

 

I haven't shopped around yet, but ball park pricing are:

2600 - £154

2600X - £193

2700 - £256

2700X - £272

 

The Vega 56 will likely be the limit for any 4k60 gaming, so the question is, is there a benefit to pay extra for 2600X over 2600 for this gaming scenario? A few more MHz but also more TDP. Note I'll keep the 1700 system also.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Personally, I would just get a 2600 and overclock as needed instead of a 2600x.

 

The stock coolers aren't that big and should fit in an NZXT Manta.

[_CrisisRogue]

10 minutes ago, porina said:

Currently I have an all AMD test system, and I really want to update to a Zen+ 2000 series CPU for further testing purposes. Logical choice is to get a 2700X and new X470 mobo, but it's a lot of cash for running a few personal interest benchmarks. I don't need that many cores just for testing, so I'm rethinking it, with the recent release of B450 mobos, of doing a more value refresh to the current system.

 

Current red system main parts are:

• 1700 stock
• Asus Prime X370-Pro
• Vega 56
• 4k 60Hz freesync monitor

Don't worry about the PSU/ram and other stuff. The thinking is, what's the value point if I want to rebuild as a 4k gaming system? In short, I need a B450 mobo + either 2600 or 2600X CPU.

 

Mobo wise I'm leaning towards the ASRock B450 ITX model, as I do want to re-use an ITX case. I don't want to buy MSI, and the Asus offering is much higher priced as usual. Any other ITX boards around yet?

 

There is enough room in the case I intend to move it into (NZXT Manta semi-customised) for the stock cooler of either 2600 or 2600X. I don't plan on overclocking for normal use but wouldn't rule out a 240mm AIO if it would make a tangible difference to CPU boosts. This is in part why I don't want to get a 2000 CPU and put it in the existing X370 mobo as the boost feature wont work.

 

I haven't shopped around yet, but ball park pricing are:

2600 - £154

2600X - £193

2700 - £256

2700X - £272

 

The Vega 56 will likely be the limit for any 4k60 gaming, so the question is, is there a benefit to pay extra for 2600X over 2600 for this gaming scenario? A few more MHz but also more TDP. Note I'll keep the 1700 system also.

Don't upgrade to 2000, wait for 3000, more of a jump, and more time to save up some $$$

[porina]

3 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Personally, I would just get a 2600 and overclock as needed instead of a 2600x.

I'm not really interested in OC for general running. While I didn't have trouble benching the 1700 with high OC, I never really had it stable with a power efficient 24/7 OC.

3 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

The stock coolers aren't that big and should fit in an NZXT Manta.

Other way around, the Manta isn't a small case for ITX  I've seen smaller microATX, but I still like the case.

3 hours ago, _CrisisRogue said:

Don't upgrade to 2000, wait for 3000, more of a jump, and more time to save up some $$$

I'll repeat this thread next year,  but I'm still going to get something soon-ish.

[pcmr2066]

Hey there, I would vote for the 2700x. For your ballpark figure of £16 difference, it's a better pick for me. Maybe not for the actual performance gain when OCed, but for the inclusion of the Wraith Prism and the name sake. You seem to have a substantial amount of hardware in your inventory. Thus I think you'd enjoy the pride of having one.

[porina]

24 minutes ago, pcmr2066 said:

Hey there, I would vote for the 2700x. For your ballpark figure of £16 difference, it's a better pick for me. Maybe not for the actual performance gain when OCed, but for the inclusion of the Wraith Prism and the name sake. You seem to have a substantial amount of hardware in your inventory. Thus I think you'd enjoy the pride of having one.

That difference is over the 2700 though. It's 77% more than the 2600.

 

Yes, I have a ton of kit, too much actually. I never get around to selling off parts I don't need. I'm now trying to focus on each system having a useful role. To be blunt, with its weak FP performance, Ryzen isn't a good fit for many of my uses. As such, I'm not feeling I'll get value from going highest end Ryzen. 1st gen, when everyone was getting to know it better, it was fine. It was new. Now... it is more of the same with some refinement. I'm more interested in that refinement, and don't need the top CPU to do it.

 

I think the question is 2600 or 2600X, and right now, I'm leaning towards 2600.

[porina]

Ok, we're done here. I've ordered the Asrock B450 ITX board and a 2600, since no one gave a good reason why I need a 2600X. Oh, the 2600 pricing dropped since I last looked, that kinda sealed the deal. Gone for cheapo delivery option since I'll be busy in the short term on other things, and it is too hot to bench much anyway... suppose I could make a start on the weekend regardless by clearing the Intel stuff currently in the Manta... not operation anyway since I raided it for parts.