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Altruist

Just a bit to finish my build, but ever since i decided to buy my motherboard i noticed it lacked WiFi.

While setting up my PC i can go downstairs and use a wired connection.

I need a permanent Network solution for my new PC.

My room doesn't have any Ethernet ports.

I'm 13 so i won't be rerunning cables in the walls ;-;

 

Budget : £15

I may be wrong.

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Just now, Slottr said:

Powerline Adapters

Out of my budget.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Altruist said:

Out of my budget.

 

 

Then I'd just look or a decent cheap wireless card then

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5 minutes ago, Altruist said:

 

Never heard of Fenvi, though, theres a 12£ one by TP-Link thats apparently decent: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-WN881ND-Wireless-Express-Antennas/dp/B006BSPTAQ/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1533139682&sr=1-5&keywords=wireless+card

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Slottr said:

isn't dual band, no heatsink, no bluetooth and an exposed pcb.

 

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12 minutes ago, Altruist said:

isn't dual band, no heatsink, no bluetooth and an exposed pcb.

 

Then go for the one you linked

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1 minute ago, Slottr said:

Then go for the one you linked

Mk Thanks for your thoughts

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3 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

Pretty standard, but really ugly.

Looks is an opinion

So do you think i should get a different one?

This thing has blue tooth and both the 2.4ghz and 5gz are higher then my broadband

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Unless you have a faster than 300Mbps internet speed, then no that will work perfectly fine for you.

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1 minute ago, RAM555789 said:

Unless you have a faster than 300Mbps internet speed, then no that will work perfectly fine for you.

And do think it will last?

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What router do you have?

 

That's super low end, I'd at least get something AC based.

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Just now, beersykins said:

What router do you have?

 

That's super low end, I'd at least get something AC based.

idk one that came w/ my broadband (virigin media)

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1 minute ago, beersykins said:

What router do you have?

 

That's super low end, I'd at least get something AC based.

802.11 ac?

Why?

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You got a few options.

1. Go wireless (Get a wireless router, connect it to your PC if it has wifi connectivity, (read more on routerinstructions), if the PC doesn't have a wireless card, get a wifi USB adapter)
2. Powerline (still wire, but only requires a power hub from your wall)

 

If you don't want these options above, then connecting your modem to your PC for 30 feets away is probably your only option.

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It will be fine if you don't care about getting the full 200Mbps but if you're okay with getting near there and having a solid connectivity will depend on distance, interference, etc. but should last a while.

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5 hours ago, Altruist said:

802.11 ac?

Why?

Because using 5GHz on Wireless N is going to heavily limit your speeds compared to having a WIreless AC card connected to the 5GHz band. Also remember that the marketing department can write whatever they want in the specifications fields so long as the hardware is theoretically capable of those speeds, but the actual performance of the card can be much lower. Take into account the real world throughput of networking standards and I'll bet you'll see closer to 50-100mbps TOPS from the cheaper no-name brand card you're looking at buying off Amazon.

 

To be clear, I get that you have a budget, and am not saying don't but this card. Just know what you're getting into, and that you may end up buying this card, using it for a while, then having abysmal performance, only to have to buy a more expensive better card in the future anyway that you could have just saved up for in the first place.

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Wireless card marketing is a scam, they often quote the COMBINED speed of both frequencies despite the fact you can't actually use both at the same time.  They also have a nasty habit of claiming high speeds for 1x1 devices, which require twice as much channel width to a 2x2 device for the same speed.  This can be an issue if you have a lot of neighbors also using WiFi where getting a clean channel of that size may be impossible, or your router is low-end and can't support larger channel widths.

With 200Mbit broadband, 802.11n is going to be a gamble as to if it reaches 200Mbit or not.  That's very much at the extreme of what 802.11n can achieve in real-world usage with 2x2 MIMO and perfect reception.  Which is almost certainly NOT going to happen unless you are in the same room as the router.  Which if you were, running an ethernet cable would likely not be an issue in the first place.

 

Its always better to get something faster than you technically need, than something that might barely manage it.  It will help to compensate for any driver issues, speed drop due to how far away you are from the router and interference, that will reduce the speed.

 

I think you'd be lucky to get 100Mbit let alone 200Mbit if you aren't in the same room as the router and on that budget.  This is the cheapest I can find that might manage it https://amzn.to/2LTCYuS

 

Its worth noting, a USB device might be a good idea, as unless the back of your PC is facing the router, the case itself will block reception on a PCIe device with the antennas on the back.  With USB you can at least pick up a cheap short extension cable to allow you to place it on top of your PC case or on a desk.

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9 hours ago, kirashi said:

Because using 5GHz on Wireless N is going to heavily limit your speeds compared to having a WIreless AC card connected to the 5GHz band. Also remember that the marketing department can write whatever they want in the specifications fields so long as the hardware is theoretically capable of those speeds, but the actual performance of the card can be much lower. Take into account the real world throughput of networking standards and I'll bet you'll see closer to 50-100mbps TOPS from the cheaper no-name brand card you're looking at buying off Amazon.

 

To be clear, I get that you have a budget, and am not saying don't but this card. Just know what you're getting into, and that you may end up buying this card, using it for a while, then having abysmal performance, only to have to buy a more expensive better card in the future anyway that you could have just saved up for in the first place.

Very well :D i will save up for a more expensive one

Any recommended brands?

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8 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Wireless card marketing is a scam, they often quote the COMBINED speed of both frequencies despite the fact you can't actually use both at the same time.  They also have a nasty habit of claiming high speeds for 1x1 devices, which require twice as much channel width to a 2x2 device for the same speed.  This can be an issue if you have a lot of neighbors also using WiFi where getting a clean channel of that size may be impossible, or your router is low-end and can't support larger channel widths.

With 200Mbit broadband, 802.11n is going to be a gamble as to if it reaches 200Mbit or not.  That's very much at the extreme of what 802.11n can achieve in real-world usage with 2x2 MIMO and perfect reception.  Which is almost certainly NOT going to happen unless you are in the same room as the router.  Which if you were, running an ethernet cable would likely not be an issue in the first place.

 

Its always better to get something faster than you technically need, than something that might barely manage it.  It will help to compensate for any driver issues, speed drop due to how far away you are from the router and interference, that will reduce the speed.

 

I think you'd be lucky to get 100Mbit let alone 200Mbit if you aren't in the same room as the router and on that budget.  This is the cheapest I can find that might manage it https://amzn.to/2LTCYuS

 

Its worth noting, a USB device might be a good idea, as unless the back of your PC is facing the router, the case itself will block reception on a PCIe device with the antennas on the back.  With USB you can at least pick up a cheap short extension cable to allow you to place it on top of your PC case or on a desk.

Alot of great advice there,  i'll got for a cheap usb device until i save up fir a more expensive solution.

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