Is this pc build good?

[Jumas548]

So I have already made similar topic, but I made some changed. Say if its good.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TByWfH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TByWfH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.70 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($304.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($195.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1149.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-17 11:35 EDT-0400

 

Tell me about how this system would overclock, and especially check out the psu and ssd, so check out if they are good thanks

 

[KarathKasun]

Low end Gigabyte boards have worse voltage regulation than the MSI boards.

 

I would say that 3.6ghz and ~1.3v would be the max safe area for that board with a 1600.

[Jurrunio]

As I said before, not the Gaming 3. I have seen people's 1600X throttle because VRM temps go past 110C. Admittedly his case doesnt have a top intake which your S340 Elite has a 120mm fan up there, but if a mobo relies on active cooling for the VRMs that's not X299, it's not great for overclocking.

[KarathKasun]

 

[Sernefarian]

SO I switched things around, netted you water cooling an NVMe SSD, better rated Fully Modular PSU, GPU that fits case theme, Higher Clocked RAM with tighter timings that is still RGB, and a motherboard that should Overclock better and is X370 as opposed to your prior choice. Also I decreased cost slightly.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($10.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: HP - EX920 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR MK2 OC Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($195.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1141.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-17 11:51 EDT-0400

[Jumas548]

54 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

SO I switched things around, netted you water cooling an NVMe SSD, better rated Fully Modular PSU, GPU that fits case theme, Higher Clocked RAM with tighter timings that is still RGB, and a motherboard that should Overclock better and is X370 as opposed to your prior choice. Also I decreased cost slightly.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($10.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: HP - EX920 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR MK2 OC Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($195.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1141.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-17 11:51 EDT-0400

I want best cooling solution for gpu, and sapphire is good for that. And I dont think I need that cooler for cpu. And I dont want m2 ssd because 2.5 are simpler. And why is that psu so cheap for 750w and gold? I dont need more than 600w... And that motherboard supports only 2667 ram. But one thing I am wondering, is that why is that ram 3200mhz and still same price as ram I chose? And what RGB means in ram?

[Sernefarian]

3 minutes ago, Jumas548 said:

I want best cooling solution for gpu, and sapphire is good for that. And I dont think I need that cooler for cpu. And I dont want m2 ssd because 2.5 are simpler. And why is that psu so cheap for 750w and gold? I dont need more than 600w... And that motherboard supports only 2667 ram. But one thing I am wondering, is that why is that ram 3200mhz and still same price as ram I chose? And what RGB means in ram?

RGB means that there are color controllable lights on the ram sticks.

 

Vendor page says the motherboard supports guaranteed for certain vendors 2933+ Mhz DDR4. The markets area a fickle thing and the price is dictated by supply, region, and demand. Sometimes higher performance products in certain areas come in at a lower price point than under performing componenets. The DDR4 I selected should be able to give you animprovement over your initial choice of RAM at the same price.

 

As re: why that particular 750W costs less it is in all likelihood due to a merchant stocking far more than they have been able to sell in their expected timeframe, and thus to free up warehouse space they are offering it at a price point that near guarantees it will move. The G3's from what I have been able to find are actually problem prone PSUs, and the Focus Plus Gold line from Seasonic has a reputation for being a rock solid and reliable PSU.

 

As Re: 2.5" being simpler, you have to worry about cable management and the effects of the cables on case aesthetics, for M.2 you just put it in the slot afix the screw and you are good to go. The NVMe drive I selected should outperform the 2.5" inch you selected in all or nearly all tasks as it is using the NVMe standard as opposed to the SATA 3.0 GB/S standard which the 2.5" drives have as the best available standard(at least to my knowledge.)

 

For the CPU cooling solution I chose that as it will: keep your CPU cooler when you overclock, will do so at nearly the same pricepoint as the Cryorig H7 which is hands down among the best budget Air COoling solutions, and do so more quietly.

 

Chances are that the Armor OC 8GB from MSI and the Sapphire Nitro will give you equivalent performance with which one performs better overall being decided on a card by card basis which has been known to vary sometimes quite massively even from the same vendor's product line. One notable scenario of such was on Jayztwocents' youtube channel where two of the exact same model of GPU from the same company and product line had a difference in capability overclocked of nearly 50MHZ on average, and there was disparity in performance even prior to overclocking either of the cards, with one of the cards being a clear winner.

[Sernefarian]

Altered for Air Cooling in budget:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($10.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: HP - EX920 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR MK2 OC Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($195.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1145.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-17 13:09 EDT-0400

[Jumas548]

37 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

Altered for Air Cooling in budget:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste  ($10.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: HP - EX920 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR MK2 OC Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($195.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1145.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-17 13:09 EDT-0400

Ok, but do I really need that cpu cooler? I heard that the stock cooler that comes with 1600 is good enough for overclocking. And woah, you were right with the ssd.. And I dont think that I need extra fans tbh, 3 is enough because I watched linustechtips video on how many fans you need, and the cooling between 3 and 4 coolers were like 0.5% so i guess I dont need that... And where I can know the REAL max motherboard ram speed support? And do I need x370? I guess I dont get that cpu cooler and fans, and get that sapphire because I trust sapphire the most, because everyone support sapphire the most.

[Sernefarian]

the case comes with 2 fans pre-installed on rear and one top. if you go with the air cooler at least one fan for the front would be a great idea. the cryorig, while an additional investment, would keep your cpu cooler under load than the stock cooler allowing you to oc higher without thermal throttling.

[Jumas548]

8 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

the case comes with 2 fans pre-installed on rear and one top. if you go with the air cooler at least one fan for the front would be a great idea. the cryorig, while an additional investment, would keep your cpu cooler under load than the stock cooler allowing you to oc higher without thermal throttling.

Yeah maybe I get that if I get too high temperatures.. Isnt that better to wait and see and if problems come up I just get that cooler? And ofc I am able to change those coolers places.. But if you know the answer can you answer to my questions about the motherboard, please?

[Sernefarian]

4 minutes ago, Jumas548 said:

Yeah maybe I get that if I get too high temperatures.. Isnt that better to wait and see and if problems come up I just get that cooler? And ofc I am able to change those coolers places.. But if you know the answer can you answer to my questions about the motherboard, please?

So as Re: Motherboard RAM support one sure fire way to check on that is to go to the QVL page for the motherboard. I will link below the QVL pages for each of the boards linked in this thread so far.

 

The Gigabyte board's QVL: http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350-gaming3.pdf

The AsRock board's QVL: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Killer SLIac/index.asp#Memory

 

These documents show the RAM Kits that the vendors of the boards themselves have personally checked to ensure that the kits absolutely will work, and at what supported speed the kits will operate on their boards(at least for the initial revision of the board as it was built when it first came to market.)

 

the X370 Board I picked has beefier VRMs which should allow it to handle the increased voltage of an overclock better than the B350 board you had chosen.

[Jumas548]

38 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

So as Re: Motherboard RAM support one sure fire way to check on that is to go to the QVL page for the motherboard. I will link below the QVL pages for each of the boards linked in this thread so far.

 

The Gigabyte board's QVL: http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350-gaming3.pdf

The AsRock board's QVL: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Killer SLIac/index.asp#Memory

 

These documents show the RAM Kits that the vendors of the boards themselves have personally checked to ensure that the kits absolutely will work, and at what supported speed the kits will operate on their boards(at least for the initial revision of the board as it was built when it first came to market.)

 

the X370 Board I picked has beefier VRMs which should allow it to handle the increased voltage of an overclock better than the B350 board you had chosen.

Okay, but one more question left. Why is that x370 you chose is so cheap? it has 6x3.0 usb ports ( Not sure but I think it has) so why is it so cheap? What is its disadvantage/disadvantages?

[Sernefarian]

As I said before it all has to do with supply and vendor stocks. Advantages: better VRMs, more full featured BIOS, Wi-Fi support on the board, and several additional reasons. For disadvantages there are really only 2 I can come up with: No CMOS Clear jumper on the board, and it costs $5 more.

 

For pricing one major one is the fact that x470 boards are on the market driving down the price of x370 boards. For the B350 board once the B450 boards come to market that one will likely experience a price decrease as well due to competition at it's feature point, but simply due to it's initial price chances are low that the price discount will be as noticeable as it was with the x370 boards when x470 launched.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Sernefarian
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[Jumas548]

11 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

As I said before it all has to do with supply and vendor stocks. Advantages: better VRMs, more full featured BIOS, Wi-Fi support on the board, and several additional reasons. For disadvantages there are really only 2 I can come up with: No CMOS Clear jumper on the board, and it costs $5 more.

 

For pricing one major one is the fact that x470 boards are on the market driving down the price of x370 boards. For the B350 board once the B450 boards come to market that one will likely experience a price decrease as well due to competition at it's feature point, but simply due to it's initial price chances are low that the price discount will be as noticeable as it was with the x370 boards when x470 launched.

Just stupid question, but can I use cabled wifi on on-board wifi motherboard? And second, how much faster cabled wifi is?

[Sernefarian]

If you mean wired LAN as opposed to Wi-Fi then it depends on what quality LAN connection you have if it is 1000Mb/s LAN and AC wifi both operating at 100% of specification capacity then the Wifi will be exactly 1/2 as much bandwidth. If you have a 100Mb/s LAN then it is entirely conceivable that during normal operation the AC wifi solution will routinely provide more bandwidth to you than the 100Mb/s lan.

 

As regards can I connect my current LAN to that mother? Then the answer is absolutely you can.

[Jumas548]

31 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

If you mean wired LAN as opposed to Wi-Fi then it depends on what quality LAN connection you have if it is 1000Mb/s LAN and AC wifi both operating at 100% of specification capacity then the Wifi will be exactly 1/2 as much bandwidth. If you have a 100Mb/s LAN then it is entirely conceivable that during normal operation the AC wifi solution will routinely provide more bandwidth to you than the 100Mb/s lan.

 

As regards can I connect my current LAN to that mother? Then the answer is absolutely you can.

I am very beginner at this lol do you mean ethernet with lan? xDD I meant can I connect my ethernet cable if I have onboard wifi? xDD sorry for being dumb

[Jumas548]

33 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

If you mean wired LAN as opposed to Wi-Fi then it depends on what quality LAN connection you have if it is 1000Mb/s LAN and AC wifi both operating at 100% of specification capacity then the Wifi will be exactly 1/2 as much bandwidth. If you have a 100Mb/s LAN then it is entirely conceivable that during normal operation the AC wifi solution will routinely provide more bandwidth to you than the 100Mb/s lan.

 

As regards can I connect my current LAN to that mother? Then the answer is absolutely you can.

And btw how did you find that good ssd? My one I chose was like same price, but your one was 100% faster how is that possible? On userbenchmark your ssd doesnt even have ratings or price, why is it so unpopular?

[Eeli]

Phanteks Eclipse P400

- Asus Maximus VIII Ranger Intel Z170

- Intel Core i5 7600K 3,8GHz

- Asus Strix GeForce GTX 1070

- Corsair CX650M

- Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2666MHz 8GB

- Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB

- Corsair Cooling Hydro H45

- Windows 10

- 2t hdd

IS THIS WORTH IT USED

[Sernefarian]

2 hours ago, Jumas548 said:

I am very beginner at this lol do you mean ethernet with lan? xDD I meant can I connect my ethernet cable if I have onboard wifi? xDD sorry for being dumb

Yes with LAN I meant local area network which is also called Ethernet.

 

34 minutes ago, Eeli said:

Phanteks Eclipse P400

- Asus Maximus VIII Ranger Intel Z170

- Intel Core i5 7600K 3,8GHz

- Asus Strix GeForce GTX 1070

- Corsair CX650M

- Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2666MHz 8GB

- Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB

- Corsair Cooling Hydro H45

- Windows 10

- 2t hdd

IS THIS WORTH IT USED

Depends on the price, how much would this bad boy cost you?