[Build Check] 600$ Gaming PC.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Hey all you dumdums,

-The 2200g is cheaper and faster than the 1200

-The 580 8GB is $259

1200 has better thermal solution and same overclocking potential. 

 

Also no need to gamble for motherboard compatibility, even though it should be solved at this point.

 

His solution is 300$ for mobo and RX 580

 

Mobo is priced between 60-80$

[Random_User123]

2 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Hey all you dumdums,

-The 2200g is cheaper and faster than the 1200

-The 580 8GB is $259

The 580 8gb has a included motherboard.
The 580 8gb is 269.99$ at lowest price as far as I have found.
The 2200g requires another cpu to do the bios thing which I just don't want to do.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Random_User123 said:

Yes it is Freesync

Rx 580 is a good choice then to remove tearing. You will almost allways be able to crack 75hz, but in those titles you cant you wont have any tearing

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

The 580 8gb has a included motherboard.
The 580 8gb is 269.99$ at lowest price as far as I have found.
The 2200g requires another cpu to do the bios thing which I just don't want to do.

Ah, prices change on the daily it seems, but 269 is worth it for that card.

ASRock boards are all ryzen 2 ready, and the b350m Pro4 is a great board for the money

[Random_User123]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Rx 580 is a good choice then to remove tearing. You will almost allways be able to crack 75hz, but in those titles you cant you wont have any tearing

Good because right now my laptop gives me a ton of screen tearing which is horrible..

[Queen Chrysalis]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

1200 has better thermal solution and same overclocking potential. 

 

Also no need to gamble for motherboard compatibility, even though it should be solved at this point.

 

His solution is 300$ for mobo and RX 580

 

Mobo is priced between 60-80$

I'll take 12nm silicon over a wraith spire.  The stealth ain't too bad, and you could probably find a spire on ebay for literally like 3-5 dollars.  Or just ask around, somebody you know has one.

[Random_User123]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Ah, prices change on the daily it seems, but 269 is worth it for that card.

ASRock boards are all ryzen 2 ready, and the b350m Pro4 is a great board for the money

Pretty hard to get a new b350 board for 30$.. And I can not agree more.. Prices change daily..
Every day I have to swap out my ram for the build because it goes off sale or too expensive..

[Random_User123]

2 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

I'll take 12nm silicon over a wraith spire.  The stealth ain't too bad, and you could probably find a spire on ebay for literally like 3-5 dollars.  Or just ask around, somebody you know has one.

Lowest price for a spire is 19.99$..
On eBay....

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Pretty hard to get a new b350 board for 30$.. And I can not agree more.. Prices change daily..
Every day I have to swap out my ram for the build because it goes off sale or too expensive..

If you are in the US, go to microcenter.  They will give you 30 bucks off a mbo with CPU purchase.  Not to mention, the 2200g is 79.99 there, and the b350m Pro4 is 60.

[Random_User123]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

If you are in the US, go to microcenter.  They will give you 30 bucks off a mbo with CPU purchase.  Not to mention, the 2200g is 79.99 there, and the b350m Pro4 is 60.

Plane ticket to Georgia is more expensive then what I'm saving.. In my state there isn't a microcenter.

[Queen Chrysalis]

Just now, Random_User123 said:

Lowest price for a spire is 19.99$..
On eBay....

Well that's fucking stupid.  A t2 can be had for 10 and that will let you full OC a 2200g.

[GoldenLag]

6 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

I'll take 12nm silicon over a wraith spire.  The stealth ain't too bad, and you could probably find a spire on ebay for literally like 3-5 dollars.  Or just ask around, somebody you know has one.

2200g is still 14nm. It is branded as a 2000 series for some reason. It is also using bad thermal paste under the ihs instead of solder which is under the 1200.

 

7 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Ah, prices change on the daily it seems, but 269 is worth it for that card.

ASRock boards are all ryzen 2 ready, and the b350m Pro4 is a great board for the money

At that point he might aswell graj the GPU-MOBO combo as he is getting it at a good deal.

 

Yes prices change daily. The mx 330 cougar is nolonger the go to budget case as it doubled in price

 

The choice of CPU is only really down to whether or not he wants to OC. To utilize the 1200 to max he should OC to 3.7-3.8 ghz (or beyond and up to 4ghz)

[Queen Chrysalis]

That sucks.  You might be able to do it online, but otherwise I guess your SOL.  I'd still get the 2200g, most manufactures will say whether or not the board is ryzen 2 ready.

[Random_User123]

2 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Well that's fucking stupid.  A t2 can be had for 10 and that will let you full OC a 2200g.

Wouldn't the iGPU of the 2200g take up some ram? Even when using different GPU? Or is there a way to make it take up no ram?

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Wouldn't the iGPU of the 2200g take up some ram? Even when using different GPU? Or is there a way to make it take up no ram?

If you have a discrete GPU, it should not occupy any ram.

[Random_User123]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

If you have a discrete GPU, it should not occupy any ram.

Still I don't have another cpu to do the weird bios thing needed.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Random_User123 said:

Wouldn't the iGPU of the 2200g take up some ram? Even when using different GPU? Or is there a way to make it take up no ram?

Unless you specifiy it to take up Ram in the BIOS it wont take up any. Unless there is no GPU installed

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Still I don't have another cpu to do the weird bios thing needed.

Shouldnt be a problem at this point. Pretty much every store have circulated their stock since the launch of the APU Ryzen parts

[Queen Chrysalis]

6 minutes ago, Random_User123 said:

Lowest price for a spire is 19.99$..
On eBay....

Now that I think of it, I have like 3 spires in my basement, and two of them are LED.  If they're going for 20+ I should sell those.  

[Random_User123]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Now that I think of it, I have like 3 spires in my basement, and two of them are LED.  If they're going for 20+ I should sell those.  

Yeah, but still doesn't mean that anyone is going to buy one of them.. When they can just get like a t2 or something else.

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Yeah, but still doesn't mean that anyone is going to buy one of them.. When they can just get like a t2 or something else.

Yeah, suppose.  I do logistics for UPS, I wonder if they'd let me ship them cheap enough to sell them for 5.

[Random_User123]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Shouldnt be a problem at this point. Pretty much every store have circulated their stock since the launch of the APU Ryzen parts

The motherboard I'm getting for free with the Rx 580 says "Ryzen 2000 ready!" 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Does this mean I can get the 2200g? Since it is slightly better in performance?
And what is the difference between the solder and "bad thermal paste"?

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Yeah, but still doesn't mean that anyone is going to buy one of them.. When they can just get like a t2 or something else.

Literally any tower cooler. Just Ziptie it down if it doesnt have the correct mounting

[Random_User123]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Literally any tower cooler. Just Ziptie it down if it doesnt have the correct mounting

Never heard anyone Ziptie their cooler before.

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Random_User123 said:

Never heard anyone Ziptie their cooler before.

They don't have be on super tight, just snug enough to make proper contact.  Zipties are plastic so no worries of shorting your board.