Selecting a PSU

[ndx101]

Hi.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gd2Cr6

2 SSDs + 1 HDD will be added to the above build.

I have not yet decided on a PSU and suggestions would be appreciated. Stability, low noise level and perhaps modularity are priorities here.

I will likely not be overclocking.

 

Thanks.

[r2724r16]

A CX450M should be fine for that build.

[STRMfrmXMN]

What a peculiar build... Are you planning to overclock the 1600?

 

Do you really need 32 GB of RAM? What are your doing with the system?

 

1050 Ti? What games are you going to be playing and at what refresh rate?

 

Anyways. For that particular build, the aforementioned CX450 would be great for it.

[ndx101]

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1050 Ti? What games are you going to be playing and at what refresh rate?

Light gaming such as WoW, Transport Fever, Pillars of Eternity 2 and various steam games. The card is a leftover from my current failing PC.

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What a peculiar build... Are you planning to overclock the 1600?

No. Was initially considering a 2600x based build but that generation does not play well with Linux yet.

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Do you really need 32 GB of RAM? What are your doing with the system?

Mostly I will be using it for software development, some virtualization, containers etc.

Picking 32GB was a mistake. Should have been 16GB.

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Anyways. For that particular build, the aforementioned CX450 would be great for it.

From the reviews I have read, CX450 measures at about 30dB. Seems loud to me.

[STRMfrmXMN]

15 minutes ago, ndx101 said:

Light gaming such as WoW, Transport Fever, Pillars of Eternity 2 and various steam games. The card is a leftover from my current failing PC.

 

Well the 1050 Ti is fine for that.

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No. Was initially considering a 2600x based build but that generation does not play well with Linux.

 

OK, well consider a different board then. The Ryzen platform has poor RAM support overall and from my experiences with AM4 Asus boards, they have the worst memory compatibility of anyone with MSI being the best. If you're not overclocking you also probably don't need the X370 Prime Pro. I have that very Asus board and it's great if you want to OC but memory support is poor, which other people on the internet also seem to struggling with on all AM4 Asus boards. Get something like a B350 PC Mate or Tomahawk since they have everything you need and are cheaper and will probably play nicer with your RAM.

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From the reviews I have read, CX450 measures at about 30dB. Seems loud to me.

Yes, it is a tad loud. If you want a quiet unit then this will do nicely.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GMYWGX/be-quiet-pure-power-10-cm-600w-80-silver-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-bn278

[Stefan Payne]

5 hours ago, ndx101 said:

No. Was initially considering a 2600x based build but that generation does not play well with Linux.

Hm?!
Where did you get that info?? I don't see any reason why the 2600 should be worse than the 1600 as its essentially the same CPU with some minor tweaks and higher clockrates.

[ndx101]

5 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Hm?!
Where did you get that info?? I don't see any reason why the 2600 should be worse than the 1600 as its essentially the same CPU with some minor tweaks and higher clockrates.

The kernel bug tracker.

[Stefan Payne]

6 minutes ago, ndx101 said:

The kernel bug tracker.

And what do they write there?!

Why even bother with that and buy a worse processor??

 

Whatever the Problem might be, it should be fixed, if not some "nice guy" is blocking it for ideological reasons...

[ndx101]

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And what do they write there?!

There are reports of soft lockups/system freezes/crashes, inability to handle power management and segmentation faults during compilation jobs.

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Why even bother with that and buy a worse processor??

It is not optimal I agree.

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Whatever the Problem might be, it should be fixed..

On this we do agree.

[Stefan Payne]

20 minutes ago, ndx101 said:

There are reports of soft lockups/system freezes/crashes, inability to handle power management and segmentation faults during compilation jobs.

1. The inability to handle power managment is more a problem of the Linux side than AMD.

In these cases I don't really trust the Open Source stuff much, when they aren't physically in one room and can talk or even hit each other...

And the Soft Lockups/Freezes/Crashes might also be caused by people who were using a defective system and didn't check their system for defects. For example incompatible Memory or memory errors could be the cause of that.

Or worse. User Error! Others would call that Overclocking and/or shitty PSU.

 

2. The Segfaults actually were something that happened on erlier Ryzen 1k Processors and it was a manufacturing error that was fixed later (i think it was something like 34th week or so), if it happened to you, you could get the CPU replaced.

 

That shouldn't happen with Ryzen 2000. But why do you think it is a Problem with Ryzen 2000???

[ndx101]

12 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

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The value of this discussion is negative. I see no point in continuing it.

[ndx101]

On 7/10/2018 at 9:55 PM, STRMfrmXMN said:

Well the 1050 Ti is fine for that.

OK, well consider a different board then. The Ryzen platform has poor RAM support overall and from my experiences with AM4 Asus boards, they have the worst memory compatibility of anyone with MSI being the best. If you're not overclocking you also probably don't need the X370 Prime Pro. I have that very Asus board and it's great if you want to OC but memory support is poor, which other people on the internet also seem to struggling with on all AM4 Asus boards. Get something like a B350 PC Mate or Tomahawk since they have everything you need and are cheaper and will probably play nicer with your RAM.

Yes, it is a tad loud. If you want a quiet unit then this will do nicely.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GMYWGX/be-quiet-pure-power-10-cm-600w-80-silver-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-bn278

Thanks. I'll keep this in mind.

[Stefan Payne]

5 hours ago, ndx101 said:

The value of this discussion is negative. I see no point in continuing it.

Because I told you something that contradicts your beliefs and you are hellbent on going for the older stuff when there is no reason to?!

As I said, the Segfault Stuff was a manufacturing mistake on the older 1k Series that happened on many early production units and was fixed.

The other Stuff is either a Fault of the Linux Kernel Developer staff or just someone with a defective system and/or Incompatible Memory or a shitty Power Supply. Random lockups are something that an ancient, garbage PSU like an Enermax EG 465AX-VE or any Topower made PSU can do. While this Enermax was a rather good PSU for the time, its just too old to be used with modern components. And many "Software Guys" have absolutely no clue about hardware and they don't think about looking for Hardware Errors.

 

So just stop it and get a Ryzen 2000. If there were some issues with those, the Forums would be full of it but they aren't.

Wich means it runs pretty well...

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Wow. This forum is amazing.  Post after post... "I don't agree with you, so you must be wrong."  Amazing.  It's getting as bad as Tom's Hardware in here.

 

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18 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

Wow. This forum is amazing.  Post after post... "I don't agree with you, so you must be wrong."  Amazing.  It's getting as bad as Tom's Hardware in here.

 

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