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What games? How many players? What hardware do you already have? How are you using GPUs to render maps? Do you really need to use VMs or would docker containers work just fine?

What games? How many players? What hardware do you already have? How are you using GPUs to render maps? Do you really need to use VMs or would docker containers work just fine?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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2 to 16 players mind craft, farm simulator 17 and 19 unreal 2003 all at the same time I was wondering if a gpu would be good for helping less powerful graphics cards with rendering larger detailed maps. Also run fire walls and different set ups. To play with 

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The games do not render on the server side, so no they don't. With games the kind of data that is transmitted is player position, actions, etc.....

As far as minecraft a copy of the block chunks is copied to the client on where everything should be rendered. It has to be rendered on client side. For computational use, GPU's do very specific functions which arent typically used in games (for server side processing). 

 

If you want something cheap - go with an ex-lease server with Xeon 5600 series CPU's as theyre very cost effective for purchase. If you want something more expensive and new, then i'd probably just build a Ryzen system for the core count. 

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Server: Fractal Design Define R6 | Ryzen 3950x | ASRock X570 Taichi | Asus RTX 4060 Dual OC | 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz | Corsair RM850v2 PSU | Fractal S36 Triple AIO + 4 Additional Venturi 120mm Fans | 8 x 20TB Seagate Exos X22 | 4 x 16TB Seagate Exos X18 | 3 x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe | LSI 9211-8i HBA

 

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NAS: Innovision 4U 24-bay chassis (12GB MiniHD SGIO Backplane) | Intel Core i9-10980xe | EVGA X299 FTW-K | EVGA RTX 2080Ti Super FTW3 | 128GB (8x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz | DEEPCOOL PN1000M PSU| Noctua NH-D12L Chromax Black | 16 x 16TB Seagate Exos X18 | 2 x 2TB Samsung 990 Pro | 2 x 2TB Intel U.2 P4510 | LSI 9305-24i HBA

 

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I still dont get why you need to use VMs just for game servers. Wouldn’t docker be more efficient and less headache inducing?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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7 hours ago, Gwn88 said:

Thanks I can use information what about the 4 or more vms 32 GB of ram seem low and do I need vm compatible motherboard and cpu's?

Why do you think you need more?

 

- UT 2003 will probably run on a VM with 4GB

- Minecraft you could easily support 50 players on 6GB

- Farming Simulator 17 says it can run on 2GB (though you want 4GB assigned to a Windows 7 or higher VM)

 

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Desktop: Ryzen9 5950X | ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wifi) | EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Pro 3600Mhz | EKWB EK-AIO 360D-RGB | EKWB EK-Vardar RGB Fans | 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, 4TB Samsung 980 Pro | Corsair 5000D Airflow | Corsair HX850 Platinum PSU | Asus ROG 42" OLED PG42UQ + LG 32" 32GK850G Monitor | Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro Keyboard | Logitech G Pro X Superlight  | MicroLab Solo 7C Speakers | Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 LE Headphones | TC-Helicon GoXLR | Audio-Technica AT2035 | LTT Desk Mat | XBOX-X Controller | Windows 11 Pro

 

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Server: Fractal Design Define R6 | Ryzen 3950x | ASRock X570 Taichi | Asus RTX 4060 Dual OC | 64GB (4x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz | Corsair RM850v2 PSU | Fractal S36 Triple AIO + 4 Additional Venturi 120mm Fans | 8 x 20TB Seagate Exos X22 | 4 x 16TB Seagate Exos X18 | 3 x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe | LSI 9211-8i HBA

 

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NAS: Innovision 4U 24-bay chassis (12GB MiniHD SGIO Backplane) | Intel Core i9-10980xe | EVGA X299 FTW-K | EVGA RTX 2080Ti Super FTW3 | 128GB (8x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz | DEEPCOOL PN1000M PSU| Noctua NH-D12L Chromax Black | 16 x 16TB Seagate Exos X18 | 2 x 2TB Samsung 990 Pro | 2 x 2TB Intel U.2 P4510 | LSI 9305-24i HBA

 

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On 7/7/2018 at 8:12 AM, sazrocks said:

I still dont get why you need to use VMs just for game servers. Wouldn’t docker be more efficient and less headache inducing?

Becouse know more vms over dockers and even tho I do not have 20k plus to in get the same equipment i use in my job i still need to stay up with vms both trouble shooting and rebuilding. As my job includes running 20 vm's on dell 420 sever blades and NAS that is so big it more then triple redundant.  I am trying to build a sever the can host games at the same time allow me to run Cisco call management systems and other vms. 

 

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On 7/7/2018 at 9:13 AM, Jarsky said:

Why do you think you need more?

 

- UT 2003 will probably run on a VM with 4GB

- Minecraft you could easily support 50 players on 6GB

- Farming Simulator 17 says it can run on 2GB (though you want 4GB assigned to a Windows 7 or higher VM)

 

I want to use it for trouble shooting fire wall issues at my work and to run a full Cisco call manager systems to help me get further at my job. The games only add to the justification of cost for such a server system of my own.

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1 hour ago, Gwn88 said:

Becouse know more vms over dockers and even tho I do not have 20k plus to in get the same equipment i use in my job i still need to stay up with vms both trouble shooting and rebuilding. As my job includes running 20 vm's on dell 420 sever blades and NAS that is so big it more then triple redundant.  I am trying to build a sever the can host games at the same time allow me to run Cisco call management systems and other vms. 

 

 

59 minutes ago, Gwn88 said:

I want to use it for trouble shooting fire wall issues at my work and to run a full Cisco call manager systems to help me get further at my job. The games only add to the justification of cost for such a server system of my own.

This information would have been useful to have been included in the OP.

Current LTT F@H Rank: 24    Score: 10,097,484,643   Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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