Wifi vs Bridge??

[AngelOfBodom]

Hey everyone. 

 

Here's the situation: moved my pc out of the bedroom (one bed small apartment) and away from my hardwire router connection and onto my 5hz wifi. Would bridging my asus router to the netgear one and wiring it that way be better than wifi? additionally, would a powerline connection be viable? i remember jay and kyle did a video on it being okay with little interference, but there's a wall and several consoles and such in the way... 

 

thanks in advance for your advice

[aezakmi]

the easy way: just get a long ethernet cable

 

the hard way: it really depends on the distance between the router A (let's assume it's the asus), B (the netgear), and the pc

if your router "B" will be near your computer, let's say at about 1m then it'll be kind of useless, use a regular pci or usb receiver instead

now, assuming the router "B" will be 5m+ away from the computer, use it as it'll likely improve the signal quality

 

the hardest way: your wiring should be decent for powerline to work correctly, if there are too many junctions or split wires then it'll likely be worse than wireless

a friend has a single wireless router and his pc is at 10m away from it and works fine, windows shows his LAN speed as 150Mbps which is the max that router can provide

[beersykins]

Depends on your NIC really.  If the router uses a lesser standard or spatial streams then the bridge will perform worse.

 

You could realistically try both.

 

I use wifi for most things (still need to run cables in the house), if you pick a channel range that isn't particularly congested (use something like Wifi Analyzer for Android/iOS) and don't have a lot of other wireless clients, it's a pretty solid experience.

[AngelOfBodom]

1 hour ago, beersykins said:

Depends on your NIC really.  If the router uses a lesser standard or spatial streams then the bridge will perform worse.

 

You could realistically try both.

 

I use wifi for most things (still need to run cables in the house), if you pick a channel range that isn't particularly congested (use something like Wifi Analyzer for Android/iOS) and don't have a lot of other wireless clients, it's a pretty solid experience.

unfortunately my tplink archer t8e's range isn't as expansive as newer revisions, so the higher ranges don't get picked up at all. just wanting the best experience while gaming

[AngelOfBodom]

2 hours ago, aezakmi said:

the easy way: just get a long ethernet cable

 

the hard way: it really depends on the distance between the router A (let's assume it's the asus), B (the netgear), and the pc

if your router "B" will be near your computer, let's say at about 1m then it'll be kind of useless, use a regular pci or usb receiver instead

now, assuming the router "B" will be 5m+ away from the computer, use it as it'll likely improve the signal quality

 

the hardest way: your wiring should be decent for powerline to work correctly, if there are too many junctions or split wires then it'll likely be worse than wireless

a friend has a single wireless router and his pc is at 10m away from it and works fine, windows shows his LAN speed as 150Mbps which is the max that router can provide

i would, but my complex considers it a fire hazard.... -.- in all honesty, the router is on the literal opposite side of the wall. speed is usually okay but i have noticed increased latency while gaming. i was just curious about thia because several tech tubers have done networking videos on this. just want to get as close to wired speeds as i can with what's available. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

Is the PC using PCIe WiFi or a USB stick?

Generally if the PC is using PCIe that should be about the best you can get, especially if the antennas are external so can be positioned in the optimal location for the routers signal.  Do remember to check if your WiFi channel is clashing with anyone elses though, that's an almost guaranteed latency problem.

 

Ultimately you have to remember that going over WiFi not only is the router CPU working on NAT but its also doing software bridging to get the traffic out of WiFi, so there will always be more latency and the best bet then is to get the most powerful router you can afford so its less likely to hitting CPU restrictions, especially for downloads.  Gaming shouldn't be too bad unless its very underpowered, but nothing comes close to a physical wire.

 

I'm confused about the wired issue though, how is the manager of the complex going to know you are doing it?  If taking it through the wall is an issue, can you not hide it around the edges of the room?  Maybe use a flat ethernet cable so they won't necessarily recognise what it is?  Its obviously NOT a fire hazard (though they are correct that leaving holes through the wall can be although a hole exactly the side of an ethernet cable is unlikely to pose much risk vs the gap around doors).

[AngelOfBodom]

On 7/7/2018 at 2:37 AM, Alex Atkin UK said:

Is the PC using PCIe WiFi or a USB stick?

Generally if the PC is using PCIe that should be about the best you can get, especially if the antennas are external so can be positioned in the optimal location for the routers signal.  Do remember to check if your WiFi channel is clashing with anyone elses though, that's an almost guaranteed latency problem.

 

Ultimately you have to remember that going over WiFi not only is the router CPU working on NAT but its also doing software bridging to get the traffic out of WiFi, so there will always be more latency and the best bet then is to get the most powerful router you can afford so its less likely to hitting CPU restrictions, especially for downloads.  Gaming shouldn't be too bad unless its very underpowered, but nothing comes close to a physical wire.

 

I'm confused about the wired issue though, how is the manager of the complex going to know you are doing it?  If taking it through the wall is an issue, can you not hide it around the edges of the room?  Maybe use a flat ethernet cable so they won't necessarily recognise what it is?  Its obviously NOT a fire hazard (though they are correct that leaving holes through the wall can be although a hole exactly the side of an ethernet cable is unlikely to pose much risk vs the gap around doors).

PCIe. It's the TPLink Archer T8E. They are technically external but it's not like the Asus one where i can physically move the antenna. Another issue with it is that the range for the 5hz on it is VERY limited, so ai can't have the best/traffic free channel and my adapter pick it up. T-T

 

Yes because we get checks and such -.- We got in trouble for HDMI cables as a fire hazard, so I'd rather make life easy for us. Our complex.is nice but weird with some rules... 

[Donut417]

3 hours ago, AngelOfBodom said:

PCIe. It's the TPLink Archer T8E. They are technically external but it's not like the Asus one where i can physically move the antenna. Another issue with it is that the range for the 5hz on it is VERY limited, so ai can't have the best/traffic free channel and my adapter pick it up. T-T

 

Yes because we get checks and such -.- We got in trouble for HDMI cables as a fire hazard, so I'd rather make life easy for us. Our complex.is nice but weird with some rules... 

Whats the distance between your computer and the router and how many walls? 

 

When I was on WiFi, I used 5Ghz thru 2 walls at about 20-25 feet. Its works fine for the most part. I was always able to achieve the full internet speed.