System Hangs Indefinately

[tsunoda]

Hi, I have been having a problem with my computer where while doing something demanding like gaming my computer can freze then give me a very loud dose of white noise, this will persist untill i turn off the pc and back on again. looking through the event viewer i cant see much other than 4 errors that shouldnt, atleast to my knowledge cause this problem.

The computer in question was muilt by myself and all parts are working as this issue has never appeared in windows 7 or ubunu, i used 3 opperating systems to make sure it wasnt something hardware based. ontop of that i have swapped out almost every part of my computer within the last few months partly to do with this problem and partly because my hardware was a few generations behind but througout this problem persists.

Its not a game that is causing this as i have had this happen in almost all of my D3D games.

[MrShinny]

Couple of things that could be the problem/fixes:

 

1. RAM is not compatable with your motherboard and his throwing a fit.

2. Try unistalling and reinstalling your gpu drivers

3. Update your gpu drivers

[tsunoda]

1 minute ago, MrShinny said:

Couple of things that could be the problem/fixes:

 

1. RAM is not compatable with your motherboard and his throwing a fit.

2. Try unistalling and reinstalling your gpu drivers

3. Update your gpu drivers

1. what?

2. Tried that and have tried a clean install.

3. see 2

[MrShinny]

1 minute ago, tsunoda said:

1. what?

Every motherboard has RAM that is, and isn't compatible with it. Can I have your motherboard model and your exact RAM model?

[tsunoda]

5 minutes ago, MrShinny said:

Every motherboard has RAM that is, and isn't compatible with it. Can I have your motherboard model and your exact RAM model?

Asus Z170-A

Corsair Vengance LPX 16GB DDR4 3000MHz

[homeap5]

How his ram may be not compatible with MB if Win7 and Ubuntu works without problem?

 

First of all - install CoreTemp and MSI Afterburner (one for CPU temperatures, one for GPU) and check what happens while you playing game or made "something demanding". Before you install 5th version of drivers and starts reinstalling everything, make sure that you don't burn your computer, so monitoring of temperatures must be the first thing to do, even if I suspect that this problem is not related.

 

[tsunoda]

1 minute ago, homeap5 said:

How his ram may be not compatible with MB if Win7 and Ubuntu works without problem?

 

First of all - install CoreTemp and MSI Afterburner (one for CPU temperatures, one for GPU) and check what happens while you playing game or made "something demanding". Before you install 5th version of drivers and starts reinstalling everything, make sure that you don't burn your computer, so monitoring of temperatures must be the first thing to do, even if I suspect that this problem is not related.

 

i dont have temporature problems, Cpu sits at around 30-40 idle and can get to 50 - 75ish range depending on the typr of game and how long i play it.

[Fleetscut]

crapping out under high load sounds like a power supply problem. What is your power supply? Also you say you parts were a few generations old, was the motherboard one of the parts you swapped out when troubleshooting? The high frequency noise could be due to some end of life capacitors that may have dried up effecting power delivery to some components.

[MrShinny]

27 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

How his ram may be not compatible with MB if Win7 and Ubuntu works without problem?

 

RAM incompatibility has different symptoms. It can show in a number of different ways. Don't rule it out.

[homeap5]

RAM problems are overrated. Ok, it can be, but we should focus on description - everything works in win7 (and it's basically the same core as in win10) or Ubuntu (completely different system). Only win10 has problems, so what changed? Not RAM, not PSU etc. "White noise" doesn't mean "high frequency noise" - it's completely different. I'm trying to read with understanding before I give some advice.

 

First of all - I have bad experience with people who replace computer parts based on advices to resolve problems that was software. Is easy to say "replace PSU", but it costs money. So lets start with symptoms. Problem is with freezing while playing games and/or when processor is working hard. Hearing "loud white noise" - this is interesting. It depends on where sound was output - from GPU by HDMI or from sound card by jack etc. Drivers may be the reason here, so maybe replace sound card drivers (not necessary last ones, just replace - even to older ones if newest are installed) will be enough. Or back to older graphics drivers. Also - I know that Win10 can install every driver needed, but sometimes installing chipset drivers is needed or at last useful.

 

Switching "Power management mode" from "Adaptive" or "Optimal power" to "Prefer maximum performance" in NVidia control panel may be good idea. Just for eliminate every possible problem with drivers.

 

Also this tool may be very useful to identify duplicated drivers and ghostbuster for remove selected drivers that are not in use.

 

Last, but not obvious - USB drivers (it's something that changes in win8/10) and some settings in BIOS related to it.

 

I'm wonder - when you changed system, do you replace anything inside your PC (SSD, HDD etc)? It may be important (like accidentally touch sata cables or power cable etc.). It's very low probability, but I'm giving some ideas here that costs nothing.

 

The only one real experience with different win8 works (freezes all the time) while win7 works 100% proper, was on faulted Z170 motherboard (because guy has very bad habit to unplug power cable every time he shudtown his computer).

[tsunoda]

15 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

RAM problems are overrated. Ok, it can be, but we should focus on description - everything works in win7 (and it's basically the same core as in win10) or Ubuntu (completely different system). Only win10 has problems, so what changed? Not RAM, not PSU etc. "White noise" doesn't mean "high frequency noise" - it's completely different. I'm trying to read with understanding before I give some advice.

 

First of all - I have bad experience with people who replace computer parts based on advices to resolve problems that was software. Is easy to say "replace PSU", but it costs money. So lets start with symptoms. Problem is with freezing while playing games and/or when processor is working hard. Hearing "loud white noise" - this is interesting. It depends on where sound was output - from GPU by HDMI or from sound card by jack etc. Drivers may be the reason here, so maybe replace sound card drivers (not necessary last ones, just replace - even to older ones if newest are installed) will be enough. Or back to older graphics drivers. Also - I know that Win10 can install every driver needed, but sometimes installing chipset drivers is needed or at last useful.

 

Switching "Power management mode" from "Adaptive" or "Optimal power" to "Prefer maximum performance" in NVidia control panel may be good idea. Just for eliminate every possible problem with drivers.

 

Also this tool may be very useful to identify duplicated drivers and ghostbuster for remove selected drivers that are not in use.

 

Last, but not obvious - USB drivers (it's something that changes in win8/10) and some settings in BIOS related to it.

 

I'm wonder - when you changed system, do you replace anything inside your PC (SSD, HDD etc)? It may be important (like accidentally touch sata cables or power cable etc.). It's very low probability, but I'm giving some ideas here that costs nothing.

 

The only one real experience with different win8 works (freezes all the time) while win7 works 100% proper, was on faulted Z170 motherboard (because guy has very bad habit to unplug power cable every time he shudtown his computer).

Hi, the sound is being output through the motherboard as im using a Focusrite Scarlett Solo 2nd gen that replaced an old behringer 802.

im sure that nothing like a lose cable is taking place as i have upgraded from one ssd to 2 in raid 0 with the problem persisting (yes i did ckeck just now to make sure)

i already have my settings on "maximum performance"

I am going to have to look into the bios usb settings in relation to win 10 as i didnt know that there would be something that could cause an issue there.

heres my system spec;

Intel i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz

Asus Z170-A

Corsair Vengance LPX 16GB DDR4 3000MHz

GTX 1080 Founders edition

2x Kingston SSD RAID 0 (yes i have tried running the system without raid and no that didnt stop the problem)

Samsung EVO SSD - Steam drive for regular games

2TB HDD - Steam drive

500GB HDD - misc drive

I am going to look into the Duplicated driver tool you linked now.

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, tsunoda said:

Hi, the sound is being output through the motherboard (...)

Soundcard = motherboard integrated soundcard too.

[tsunoda]

On 03/07/2018 at 8:15 PM, homeap5 said:

Soundcard = motherboard integrated soundcard too.

so i tried all of the things other than the bois stings (i couldnt find anything relating to USB settings) and the system still has the same issue though the sound did not play this time, slight progress, possibly..

[homeap5]

Well, it's only OS. Win7, 8, 10, whatever, almost the same core. Clone your system using Macrium Reflect and stay with win7 for few months until new win10 update. Nothing else I cannot recommend. Too much possibilities including hardware (who knows). I hope someone can be more helpful.

 

BTW. Options related to USB in BIOS are XHCI handoff and EHCI handoff. I'm pretty sure that it can't help, but you can try to different settings just in case.