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7 minutes ago, GizmoFTW said:

So, here is my first build, and I have a few questions. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm gonna be using it primarily for game streaming. Anyways, I'm planning to buy parts when I go to microcenter in a few days, but I have a few questions.

 

First off, will the 1060 bottleneck the 2700x? Should I just go with a regular 2700?

This probably sounds weird, but I want to know if I should go with a 2700x or 2700.

 

Also, I've heard a lot of talk about x470 mobos. I think it would be above my budget, but is it worth it? I'm pretty sure that this particular mobo has the right BIOS for this CPU (not 100% sure tho), but what are the advantages of an x470 and should I go for one or is the Asus Strix B350-F good enough? (Note that I won't be doing any OCing)

 

Lastly, I read something about the max ram speed on motherboards, and I was a little confused. It said that B350 mobos only supported up to 2666mhz, and x470 supported 2933mhz, but how come I've seen people use DDR4-3200 with this kind of mobo? Should I go for something with a slower ram speed?

Again, apologies if these questions seem kind of stupid, I'm new to this. Feel free to tell me any other changes you think I should make to this build.

 

Cheers!

You shouldn't worry about bottlenecks but the x series is still a rip off as it doesn't necessarily give you anything you could get with the none x series CPU. As for the motherboard, You could go for the B350 one. The reason you see people running ram at speeds like that is that of overclocking. I would get the slower ram as it is typically much cheaper. 

So, here is my first build, and I have a few questions. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm gonna be using it primarily for game streaming. Anyways, I'm planning to buy parts when I go to microcenter in a few days, but I have a few questions.

 

First off, will the 1060 bottleneck the 2700x? Should I just go with a regular 2700?

This probably sounds weird, but I want to know if I should go with a 2700x or 2700.

 

Also, I've heard a lot of talk about x470 mobos. I think it would be above my budget, but is it worth it? I'm pretty sure that this particular mobo has the right BIOS for this CPU (not 100% sure tho), but what are the advantages of an x470 and should I go for one or is the Asus Strix B350-F good enough? (Note that I won't be doing any OCing)

 

Lastly, I read something about the max ram speed on motherboards, and I was a little confused. It said that B350 mobos only supported up to 2666mhz, and x470 supported 2933mhz, but how come I've seen people use DDR4-3200 with this kind of mobo? Should I go for something with a slower ram speed?

Again, apologies if these questions seem kind of stupid, I'm new to this. Feel free to tell me any other changes you think I should make to this build.

 

Cheers!

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7 minutes ago, GizmoFTW said:

So, here is my first build, and I have a few questions. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm gonna be using it primarily for game streaming. Anyways, I'm planning to buy parts when I go to microcenter in a few days, but I have a few questions.

 

First off, will the 1060 bottleneck the 2700x? Should I just go with a regular 2700?

This probably sounds weird, but I want to know if I should go with a 2700x or 2700.

 

Also, I've heard a lot of talk about x470 mobos. I think it would be above my budget, but is it worth it? I'm pretty sure that this particular mobo has the right BIOS for this CPU (not 100% sure tho), but what are the advantages of an x470 and should I go for one or is the Asus Strix B350-F good enough? (Note that I won't be doing any OCing)

 

Lastly, I read something about the max ram speed on motherboards, and I was a little confused. It said that B350 mobos only supported up to 2666mhz, and x470 supported 2933mhz, but how come I've seen people use DDR4-3200 with this kind of mobo? Should I go for something with a slower ram speed?

Again, apologies if these questions seem kind of stupid, I'm new to this. Feel free to tell me any other changes you think I should make to this build.

 

Cheers!

You shouldn't worry about bottlenecks but the x series is still a rip off as it doesn't necessarily give you anything you could get with the none x series CPU. As for the motherboard, You could go for the B350 one. The reason you see people running ram at speeds like that is that of overclocking. I would get the slower ram as it is typically much cheaper. 

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1 minute ago, Oryzaki said:

You shouldn't worry about bottlenecks but the x series is still a rip off as it doesn't necessarily give you anything you could get with the none x series CPU. As for the motherboard, You could go for the B350 one. The reason you see people running ram at speeds like that is that of overclocking. I would get the slower ram as it is typically much cheaper. 

Ok, I'll go for the 2700. About the ram though, how come people say that Ryzen CPUs are often affected by ram speeds and you should go for ddr4-3200? Should I just disregard that and go for 2666?

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Get the 1700 instead. Lose 10% performance and shave more than $100. Much better deal imo.

 

1060 will bottleneck the 1700 more often than not. With money saved by going to the 1700, you could get a 1070ti which is a lot faster (50% extra fps at least)

 

B350-F is plenty as long as you dont overclock hard.

 

Kingston A400 is cheap, but also slow by SATA SSD standards. I'd push to 240gb at least of models like the Adata SU800 or Crucial MX500 on a system this expensive. Sk hynix SL308 is also decent.

 

3200MHz RAM requires overclocking, it's just guaranteed overclocking, unlike CPUs and graphics cards.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, GizmoFTW said:

Ok, I'll go for the 2700. About the ram though, how come people say that Ryzen CPUs are often affected by ram speeds and you should go for ddr4-3200? Should I just disregard that and go for 2666?

It is true that higher ram speeds will affect the overall fps you get its a very small amount like 5 or so fps. I run a machine similar to yours with 2666Mhz ram and it runs nearly as fast as machines with 3200Mhz ram on machines with similar specs

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Get the 1700 instead. Lose 10% performance and shave more than $100. Much better deal imo.

 

1060 will bottleneck the 1700 more often than not. With money saved by going to the 1700, you could get a 1070ti which is a lot faster (50% extra fps at least)

 

B350-F is plenty as long as you dont overclock hard.

 

Kingston A400 is cheap, but also slow by SATA SSD standards. I'd push to 240gb at least of models like the Adata SU800 or Crucial MX500 on a system this expensive. Sk hynix SL308 is also decent.

 

3200MHz RAM requires overclocking, it's just guaranteed overclocking, unlike CPUs and graphics cards.

The microcenter I'm going to doesn't currently have 1700s in stock (It's what I originally wanted), only 1800x, 2700, and 2700x. They also have 2600s. Which out of those would you pick?

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6 minutes ago, GizmoFTW said:

The microcenter I'm going to doesn't currently have 1700s in stock (It's what I originally wanted), only 1800x, 2700, and 2700x. They also have 2600s. Which out of those would you pick?

The cheapest 8 core. The 1700 was available at $200 somewhere else (also US store).

 

As for memory, Ryzen loves memory bandwidth. 2 or 4 sticks of 2666mhz RAM already gets most of your performance (because dual channel)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The cheapest 8 core. The 1700 was available at $200 somewhere else (also US store).

 

As for memory, Ryzen loves memory bandwidth. 2 or 4 sticks of 2666mhz RAM already gets most of your performance (because dual channel)

There's a deal for a 2700 and B350-F mobo for $320, which I think is about how much that mobo with 1700 would cost online. Do you think it'd work for me to go for that? 

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Just now, GizmoFTW said:

There's a deal for a 2700 and B350-F mobo for $320, which I think is about how much that mobo with 1700 would cost online. Do you think it'd work for me to go for that? 

Yeah that's a really good deal you should take it

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2 minutes ago, Oryzaki said:

 

 

Yeah that's a really good deal you should take it

k. there's also one for $360 with 2700x instead but from what I've heard I think I'll go with 2700

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The 2700X is by far the better deal than the 2700 is time round. AMD has honed in their boosting technologies to the point that you could actually see better numbers with the X part rather than an overclocked non-X part. Last generation this was less true.

Lappy: i7 8750H | GTX 1060 Max Q | 16Gb 2666Mhz RAM | 256Gb SSD | 1TB HDD | 1080p IPS panel @60Hz | Dell G5

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