New PC build

[Holmes2468]

I'm looking to build a new PC in the next few months since I'm having issues with my intel 4790k build. as in the MB will not recognize any more expansion cards beyond the wifi card, gtx 1080 and a m.2 SSD. 

I'm trying to debate on basing my next computer on a intel i7 7820x or the newer main stream i7 8700k. I know I'll be losing the wifi card since I'm looking for a MB with one built in. I'm also going to be adding a Creative Labs Sound Blaster AE-5 for sure and upping my m.2 to a 1 tb Samsung 970 Pro and main storage will be a 2 tb samsung 2.5" Evo SSD

 

If I go with the 7820X, I was looking at using the MSI mATX board and get a mATX case at a later date. If I go with the 8700K, I was looking at an asus Full ATX MB

[ScratchCat]

i7 8700K - cheaper platform in most cases, higher clock speed.

[Holmes2468]

1 minute ago, ScratchCat said:

i7 8700K - cheaper platform in most cases, higher clock speed.

will it handle if I decide to SLI in the future?

[Jurrunio]

27 minutes ago, Holmes2468 said:

will it handle if I decide to SLI in the future?

The first thing, is that you shouldnt consider SLI. high power draw, unstable performance, bugs etc

[O9B0666]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The first thing, is that you shouldnt consider SLI. high power draw, unstable performance, bugs etc

this is mainly in more then 2 way sli....this forum is anti sli/cf and anti intel....

having been crossfiring gpu's amd ones tho for the past 3-4 years i have not once had any issues with it. Their's plenty of video showing otherwise to these mis informed people say on here. Yes it can harm performance in rare instances, but generally 2 way is fine. Their's several of us on here who can attest to it never being a issue, once someone posts it's a issue everyone runs with that and most have never ran more then 1 card truthfully.

[Jurrunio]

55 minutes ago, O9B0666 said:

this is mainly in more then 2 way sli....this forum is anti sli/cf and anti intel....

having been crossfiring gpu's amd ones tho for the past 3-4 years i have not once had any issues with it. Their's plenty of video showing otherwise to these mis informed people say on here. Yes it can harm performance in rare instances, but generally 2 way is fine. Their's several of us on here who can attest to it never being a issue, once someone posts it's a issue everyone runs with that and most have never ran more then 1 card truthfully.

Are you getting stock Vega 56 frame rates though? That card draws about 215w at stock, less than your RX 470 CF setup (120w x2). Multi GPU setups just falls apart when it comes to more frame rates for your money.

 

multiGPU makes sense if you want to look cool or you're stuck at the fastest card already, but by the time OP has money for another card, the 1080ti will no longer be king. That's why his next step still shouldnt be SLI

[ScratchCat]

5 hours ago, Holmes2468 said:

will it handle if I decide to SLI in the future?

SLI is not well supported anymore, a number of NVIDIA GPUs do not have the option and the others will be plagued by high cost, power draw, microstutters and crashes. Buy a higher end GPU instead.

[Holmes2468]

But if money is no issue, would the 7820x be a better buy over the 8700k?

[DarkSmith2]

36 minutes ago, Holmes2468 said:

But if money is no issue, would the 7820x be a better buy over the 8700k?

For gaming, no. 8700k is just the fastest there is. 

In SLI config, no. 7820x is sadly limited to 28 PCI-E lanes.

 

7900x .. well if you can do something with the cores..... and live in a place where power costs are low.. hmmmm still slower in games but yummy..

[Holmes2468]

4 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

For gaming, no. 8700k is just the fastest there is. 

In SLI config, no. 7820x is sadly limited to 28 PCI-E lanes.

 

7900x .. well if you can do something with the cores..... and live in a place where power costs are low.. hmmmm still slower in games but yummy..

What do you think of the 8086k?

[DarkSmith2]

1 minute ago, Holmes2468 said:

What do you think of the 8086k?

i wanna see some actual data from silicon lottery / 8pack or der8auer about the binning process. If its guaranteed that it can overclock to 5GHz+ all cores, the extra $$ might be worth it for some.

 

Only 86% of 8700k's tested could do 5GHz according to silicon lottery statistics. Had been higher in the past (highest ive seen was 92%) so im guessing "manufacturing process adjustments" are kicking in or newer revisions just got a less percentage due to Intels 8086k binning process. So if you get a 8700k try to get one from an older Batch.