Tips for Upgrading PC

[Taf the Ghost]

9 hours ago, SafeStrafe said:

Yes I have a nzxt s340 elite case

Oh, so plenty of space.

8 hours ago, SafeStrafe said:

Should i go for the ryzen 7 2700x instead??

What do you plan to do with this system? That'd answer a good bit of the question, but since you have 1 stick of "below max standard" RAM, you wouldn't see the cost savings.

 

However, if you're willing to sell the current CPU + Mobo + RAM, after getting the new system in, you could do something like...

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/nBzv3b

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (€219.90 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€143.95 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€182.61 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €546.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 06:58 CEST+0200

[SafeStrafe]

2 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Oh, so plenty of space.

What do you plan to do with this system? That'd answer a good bit of the question, but since you have 1 stick of "below max standard" RAM, you wouldn't see the cost savings.

 

However, if you're willing to sell the current CPU + Mobo + RAM, after getting the new system in, you could do something like...

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/nBzv3b

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (€219.90 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€143.95 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€182.61 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €546.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 06:58 CEST+0200

I have enough for those parts 

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, SafeStrafe said:

I have enough for those parts 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/RCbmGG

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€279.90 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€31.24 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€101.11 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€140.10 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €552.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 09:14 CEST+0200

 

You'd need to poke around your specific country. At least from my France example, this is probably the better way to go. Mostly because there is some good Z-series boards for quite cheap, while the good B450 boards aren't out yet for AMD. (There's also regional price differences, as AMD is normally better Price/Performance in the States than quite a few other places.)

 

 

[Taf the Ghost]

Plus that memory appears to be on sale at the moment, at least in the example I gave.

[SafeStrafe]

9 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Plus that memory appears to be on sale at the moment, at least in the example I gave.

Should I get ryzen 7 2700x or the i7 8700k, I'm not sure?

[Taf the Ghost]

3 minutes ago, SafeStrafe said:

Should I get ryzen 7 2700x or the i7 8700k, I'm not sure?

Both seem a bit overkill for your needs.

[SafeStrafe]

2 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Both seem a bit overkill for your needs.

Ok so what CPU would u reccomend

[Taf the Ghost]

8 minutes ago, SafeStrafe said:

Ok so what CPU would u reccomend

If the price is roughly the same, I'd probably go with this one:

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/RCbmGG

 

It's the best general purpose for your exact price range, though I might also poke around the Cooler options a bit. But it also depends on where you can shop in your country, as the prices can be wildly different.

 

(The 8700 over the 8700k because you'd need to spend at least another 150 Euros to get any performance boost, then you'd need at least another 500 Euro in GPU to see anything extra out of it. The CPU will last you 5-6 years without much issue. )

[SafeStrafe]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

If the price is roughly the same, I'd probably go with this one:

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/RCbmGG

 

It's the best general purpose for your exact price range, though I might also poke around the Cooler options a bit. But it also depends on where you can shop in your country, as the prices can be wildly different.

 

(The 8700 over the 8700k because you'd need to spend at least another 150 Euros to get any performance boost, then you'd need at least another 500 Euro in GPU to see anything extra out of it. The CPU will last you 5-6 years without much issue. )

Ok thanks, you wouldnt reccomend ryzen?

[SafeStrafe]

I just checked for me the 8700 is only 30 euro cheaper

[Taf the Ghost]

Just now, SafeStrafe said:

I just checked for me the 8700 is only 30 euro cheaper

Ryzen is a very good product. You're at the exact budget where the 8700 is the best Price/Performance for general use.

 

If you want to save some money, I can line out a 2600X build.

[SafeStrafe]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Ryzen is a very good product. You're at the exact budget where the 8700 is the best Price/Performance for general use.

 

If you want to save some money, I can line out a 2600X build.

I think ill go for the 8700, its better for gaming isnt it?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, SafeStrafe said:

I think ill go for the 8700, its better for gaming isnt it?

With a 1060, it's not different. The difference is game engines work better on it. So you get the "Everyone tunes for Intel" benefit.

[SafeStrafe]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

With a 1060, it's not different. The difference is game engines work better on it. So you get the "Everyone tunes for Intel" benefit.

Ok, ill get the 8700, MB GIGABYTE Z370 D3 mobo, and a extra 8gb of ram

[Taf the Ghost]

@SafeStrafe There's also the issue at the moment that it seems like there isn't a lot of X470 boards available in Europe, so the normal AMD Price/Performance savings aren't quite the same. Plus I don't want to set someone up to need to go through the BIOS update issues if they buy a B350 board without current compatibility. 

 

Thus, at the moment, given your budget, the i7-8700 is the best Price/Performance upgrade you can get, within the current market. That setup also lets you sell your current CPU+Mobo+RAM for something. (I imagine you can get >100 Euros for it, but your local market will dictate that. Or you can re-purpose it for something else.)

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, SafeStrafe said:

Ok, ill get the 8700, MB GIGABYTE Z370 D3 mobo, and a extra 8gb of ram

If you're going for the 8700, you'll want to buy a new, fast RAM kit. To save some cost, a 4 Gb x 2 kit would work.

[SafeStrafe]

3 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

If you're going for the 8700, you'll want to buy a new, fast RAM kit. To save some cost, a 4 Gb x 2 kit would work.

Can i not just get a extra 8gb of ram 2400mhz , then ill have 16

[Taf the Ghost]

6 minutes ago, SafeStrafe said:

Can i not just get a extra 8gb of ram 2400mhz , then ill have 16

While it should work, there's going to be a performance hit, though I'm not sure if it'll matter without a much faster GPU.

[SafeStrafe]

And will this cooler be ok for the i7 8700 

Noctua NH-L9x65 

[SafeStrafe]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

While it should work, there's going to be a performance hit, though I'm not sure if it'll matter without a much faster GPU.

so will i get the extra 8gb

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, SafeStrafe said:

And will this cooler be ok for the i7 8700 

Noctua NH-L9x65 

While I like Noctua's, why that one?

[SafeStrafe]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

While I like Noctua's, why that one?

What one would u reccomend

 

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, SafeStrafe said:

What one would u reccomend

 

https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d9l

 

Unless your case doesn't have the clearance. (Also, it might be cheaper in many regions.)

[SafeStrafe]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d9l

 

Unless your case doesn't have the clearance. (Also, it might be cheaper in many regions.)

i have a nzxt s340 elite is should be ok

 

[Taf the Ghost]

CPU Cooler: 161mm 

 

From https://www.nzxt.com/products/s340-elite-matte-white . So you can use most Tower-style coolers.