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5 minutes ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

Hello,

i have a intel core i7 860 in my pc, but i don't know how good it really is. what could you compare to it and is it about the same (performance wise) as any of the latest i7 processors?

Sooo that generation of CPUs is about 9 years old. It's worse then current generation i3s... 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-860-vs-Intel-i3-8100/6vs3103

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6 minutes ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

Hello,

i have a intel core i7 860 in my pc, but i don't know how good it really is. what could you compare to it and is it about the same (performance wise) as any of the latest i7 processors?

I3 7100 is the newest Equivalent to your i7 860. 

 

I7 860: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-860+%40+2.80GHz&id=6

 

i3 7100: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-7100+%40+3.90GHz&id=2924

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at the very least i would say it would be the same performing as a Xeon X3450 if you overclock it to 4GHz and so on

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9 minutes ago, wirs said:

The new i7 8700 is about twice as powerful in benchmarks as your 860

Even the "low end" i3 8100 is way better in most cases than the 860

 

it's hard to compare it with anything new as the 860 was released 2009

wich intel cpu should i choose then for about €150 that is better than my 860? i'd like it to be a i5 or even (if possible) a i7

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1 minute ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

wich intel cpu should i choose then for about €150 that is better than my 860?

You should save up, you ain't doing anything with just 150 euros, as you need to upgrade platform, memory and all.

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1 minute ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

wich intel cpu should i choose then for about €150 that is better than my 860?

If your budget is 150€ then the choice is simple: None

 

You would most certainly need a new motherboard and depending on how new the new cpu should be even new ram

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2 minutes ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

wich intel cpu should i choose then for about €150 that is better than my 860? i'd like it to be a i5 or even (if possible) a i7

What country do you live in and where do you normally purchase things online? ( I'm from US so prices/stores could be different here.)

 

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1 minute ago, Brink2Three said:

What country do you live in and where do you normally purchase things online? ( I'm from US so prices/stores could be different here.)

 

from Holland. usually buy things at bol.com, centralpoint.nl and some other ones. btw i have a GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3L motherboard with a LGA 1156 socket. any recommendations thats better than mine?

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Just now, CaptainChaos025 said:

from Holland. usually buy things at bol.com, centralpoint.nl and some other ones. btw i have a GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3L motherboard with a LGA 1156 socket. any recommendations thats better than mine?

Pretty much everything one can get nowdays is better. The problem is that 150€ is not enough to upgrade as you need to replace your motherboard,cpu and ram

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14 minutes ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

from Holland. usually buy things at bol.com, centralpoint.nl and some other ones. btw i have a GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3L motherboard with a LGA 1156 socket. any recommendations thats better than mine?

Here is the list of your motherboard's supported cpu's: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-P55-USB3L-rev-10#support-cpu

And seems like the only "better" option to upgrade cpu is Core i7-880 but really, you won't see much difference and not worth the money for the upgrade.

I suggest to save up for a new system.

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27 minutes ago, wirs said:

Pretty much everything one can get nowdays is better. The problem is that 150€ is not enough to upgrade as you need to replace your motherboard,cpu and ram

 

11 minutes ago, Krystian said:

Here is the list of your motherboard's supported cpu's: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-P55-USB3L-rev-10#support-cpu

And seems like the only "better" option to upgrade cpu is Core i7-880 but really, you won't see much difference and not worth the money for the upgrade.

I suggest to save up for a new system.

ok then. but what if i were to just put in a good gpu (as in my case and budget a MSI GeForce GTX 1050 TI)?

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what mobo do you have? If it's X58 you can usually get a 6c/12t Xeon for about $35-90 and overclock it to 4GHz or so. At 4.2Ghz my Xeon is close to a stock Ryzen 5 1600 in synthetic benchmarks, and runs all my games fine. It was $120 along with my ASUS Rampage mobo, so mobo and CPU were cheaper than most new CPUs. And I scored 16GB of DDR3 for about $60. 

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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

what mobo do you have? If it's X58 you can usually get a 6c/12t Xeon for about $35-90 and overclock it to 4GHz or so. At 4.2Ghz my Xeon is close to a stock Ryzen 5 1600 in synthetic benchmarks, and runs all my games fine. It was $120 along with my ASUS Rampage mobo, so mobo and CPU were cheaper than most new CPUs. And I scored 16GB of DDR3 for about $60. 

what is a mobo?

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1 minute ago, CaptainChaos025 said:

what is a mobo?

Motherboard. 

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Maybe you could overclock it? It would still be pretty good CPU if you overclock it a bit.

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45 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

Maybe you could overclock it? It would still be pretty good CPU if you overclock it a bit.

True. With a nice oc the i7 860 could compete with a fx 6300/8320 which should still deliver acceptable gaming performance in even the newest games, if you have a decent gpu of course. A gtx 960, 970, 1050, 1050ti, 1060 would pare nicely with this cpu, at least in my opinion. Some newer cpu heavy games will result in a bottleneck on the cpu side but most of the games out there should be playable.

 

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