Need Help Building a Workstations

[TalalB]

Hii guys

Longtime Linus subscriber first-time poster, to start off I would like to apologize for any grammar or bad spelling mistakes.

I’d like to get some of your thoughts and expertise on Workstations especially for Autodesk Fusion 360, and SolidWorks, plus other things such as Arduino programming, running Python scripts, etc. and maybe light gaming, I’m not much of a gamer.

I’m a mechanical engineer, and I recently in the past couple of years started 3D printing and trying to learn Arduino and such.

Now keep in mind although I’m Arab, unfortunately not one of the rich ones, so I’m trying to keep the cost as low as possible.

Without further ado, here’s what I know, Fusion 360 can utilize multicore, but many recommended I aim for a faster CPU rather than multi-core, so should I get something like i5 6600k quad core overclock-able 3.5GHz to 3.9GHz, and is it safe or recommended to do so?

And for the RAM I know that 8GB isn’t enough from my experience with my laptop, I might get 16GB but don’t know what I should look for in MHz or DDR3/DDR4.

Now to the sexy graphics cards, I know nothing about this sexy topic, all I know is that I’d need something like Quadra, but can I game in it if I ever wanted to? and how much VRAM would I need, or should I get one of the old GTX cards?

SSD, should I get 500BG SSD or I can get away with 256GB, I’ll use HD for my data awaydays.

 

Sorry for the long post, this is the longest post I’ve ever written in my life. I might even post this in PornHub, a lot of guys and girls are helpful there too.

And thanks for listening guys, hope to hear from you soon.

[VEXICUS]

32 minutes ago, TalalB said:

Hii guys

 

Longtime Linus subscriber first-time poster, to start off I would like to apologize for any grammar or bad spelling mistakes.

 

I’d like to get some of your thoughts and expertise on Workstations especially for Autodesk Fusion 360, and SolidWorks, plus other things such as Arduino programming, running Python scripts, etc. and maybe light gaming, I’m not much of a gamer.

 

I’m a mechanical engineer, and I recently in the past couple of years started 3D printing and trying to learn Arduino and such.

 

Now keep in mind although I’m Arab, unfortunately not one of the rich ones, so I’m trying to keep the cost as low as possible.

 

Without further ado, here’s what I know, Fusion 360 can utilize multicore, but many recommended I aim for a faster CPU rather than multi-core, so should I get something like i5 6600k quad core overclock-able 3.5GHz to 3.9GHz, and is it safe or recommended to do so?

 

And for the RAM I know that 8GB isn’t enough from my experience with my laptop, I might get 16GB but don’t know what I should look for in MHz or DDR3/DDR4.

 

Now to the sexy graphics cards, I know nothing about this sexy topic, all I know is that I’d need something like Quadra, but can I game in it if I ever wanted to? and how much VRAM would I need, or should I get one of the old GTX cards?

 

SSD, should I get 500BG SSD or I can get away with 256GB, I’ll use HD for my data awaydays.

 

 

 

Sorry for the long post, this is the longest post I’ve ever written in my life. I might even post this in PornHub, a lot of guys and girls are helpful there too.

 

And thanks for listening guys, hope to hear from you soon.

 

BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($165.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($60.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.33 @ Newegg) 
Total: $840.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-13 02:14 EDT-0400

 

BUT I STRONGLY RECOMMEND U TO WAIT FR THE ZEN+ SERIES THATS COMING OUT IN A WEEK OR SO

 

[brob]

Depending on your budget you might consider the i5-8600 or i7-8700. If you are interested in overclocking, the K version should be used.

 

A locked cpu can be paired with a B360 or H370 motherboard. Unlocked cpu need a Z370 cpu to overclock.

 

If you opt for a locked cpu then a 2x8GB or 2x16GB DDR4-2666 memory kit would be good. With unlocked cpu one can choose higher speed memory.

 

Consider getting a 1TB ssd rather than splitting up storage between a 240GB ssd and hdd.

 

According to https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/video-card-question/m-p/6846738#M95617, Quadro gpu are not optimal for Fusion 360. This poses a dilemma for you. A Quadro gpu is going to provide significantly better performance in Solidworks. Unfortunately Quadro gpu are not very good for gaming or Fusion 360.

 

[TalalB]

2 hours ago, vexicus365 said:

BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($175.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($165.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($60.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.33 @ Newegg) 
Total: $840.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-13 02:14 EDT-0400

 

BUT I STRONGLY RECOMMEND U TO WAIT FR THE ZEN+ SERIES THATS COMING OUT IN A WEEK OR SO

 

Really great stuff Vexi

and really loved the case, I'll check if it can accommodate an air cooler, and the graphics card looks like a good investment.
but i might get a lower storage HD.
anyways that was extremely helpful THANKS 

[TalalB]

2 hours ago, brob said:

Depending on your budget you might consider the i5-8600 or i7-8700. If you are interested in overclocking, the K version should be used.

 

A locked cpu can be paired with a B360 or H370 motherboard. Unlocked cpu need a Z370 cpu to overclock.

 

If you opt for a locked cpu then a 2x8GB or 2x16GB DDR4-2666 memory kit would be good. With unlocked cpu one can choose higher speed memory.

 

Consider getting a 1TB ssd rather than splitting up storage between a 240GB ssd and hdd.

 

According to https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/video-card-question/m-p/6846738#M95617, Quadro gpu are not optimal for Fusion 360. This poses a dilemma for you. A Quadro gpu is going to provide significantly better performance in Solidworks. Unfortunately Quadro gpu are not very good for gaming or Fusion 360.

 

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thanks brob for your quick reply

the only reason I mentioned the i5-6600k was I found a slightly used one in my hometown for around 150$, but the one that the 8600 has more cores, the question is should I cheap out on this?

it's really great that you mentioned motherboards, I really don't know anything about them.

and correct me if I'm wrong about the ram, would the 2666 means that my CPU would be bottlenecked to that speed? 
and as for the SSD, I checked the prices and thought that I'll get the 500GB since I would only use that memory to speed up the boot and software start, and some files that I'm using constantly unless you advise me on not cheapping out on that.

And I guess I should go with a graphics card since I'm more familiar with Fusion 360 more than SolidWorks.

I really appreciate your reply, Thanks brob

 

[VEXICUS]

1 hour ago, TalalB said:

Really great stuff Vexi

and really loved the case, I'll check if it can accommodate an air cooler, and the graphics card looks like a good investment.
but i might get a lower storage HD.
anyways that was extremely helpful THANKS 

U can get a cheap air cooler like hyper 212 Evo or cryorig h5

Also fr storage u can go with 1gb wd blue

For GPU. ..u can even go with rx580 8gb varient...but it costs about $100 more

[brob]

5 hours ago, TalalB said:

thanks brob for your quick reply

the only reason I mentioned the i5-6600k was I found a slightly used one in my hometown for around 150$, but the one that the 8600 has more cores, the question is should I cheap out on this?

it's really great that you mentioned motherboards, I really don't know anything about them.

and correct me if I'm wrong about the ram, would the 2666 means that my CPU would be bottlenecked to that speed? 
and as for the SSD, I checked the prices and thought that I'll get the 500GB since I would only use that memory to speed up the boot and software start, and some files that I'm using constantly unless you advise me on not cheapping out on that.

And I guess I should go with a graphics card since I'm more familiar with Fusion 360 more than SolidWorks.

I really appreciate your reply, Thanks brob

 

 

Get a current cpu, i.e. an Intel i9-8999 or an AMD Ryzen. Part of the reason for this is that the platforms support or better support newer tech. M.2 NVMe drives and higher speed memory being examples.

 

The cpu / memory link is always a bottleneck, always. The memory controller, (on the cpu chip), supports up to DDR4-2666 at stock. With an appropriate cpu and motherboard, memory can be easily overclocked. Faster memory can make a difference, but probably not that noticeable in most circumstances.

 

I would suggest the largest affordable ssd. Faster storage usually improves model load and other processing times.