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Micro Build Suggestions

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I want to build a micro atx build in something like the node 202 or smaller. My budget is $600 and I already have an SSD and memory. Would it be worth it to get a 2400g and OC it and have fast memory or buy something like a 1050ti or 1050? Main games I would be playing are fortnite, CSGO, other non demanding titles. All at 1080p too

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Hey! I do not think that it is needed to spend another 200 for 1050/ti as 2400g should give you 60 fps in these games. Just make sure you have fast ram .. atleast 3000mhz. Going for graphics card nowadays is generally not worth it.

 

But if you want to spend more money just wait for the new ryzen cpus which are coming in mid-late april. And pair it with something like 1050Ti if you can get a good deal. Those mini carda are not as expensive as normal ones.

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2 minutes ago, matus177 said:

Hey! I do not think that it is needed to spend another 200 for 1050/ti as 2400g should give you 60 fps in these games. Just make sure you have fast ram .. atleast 3000mhz. Going for graphics card nowadays is generally not worth it.

 

But if you want to spend more money just wait for the new ryzen cpus which are coming in mid-late april. And pair it with something like 1050Ti if you can get a good deal. Those mini carda are not as expensive as normal ones.

I have 3600mhz RAM can it even support that fast? I can always add a GPU in later I guess

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I have 3600mhz RAM can it even support that fast? I can always add a GPU in later I guess

Well, that is a fast ram you have. Just make sure that mb supports ram that fast and you should be okay. I think that apu will be happy to have something like that.

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I believe the new Ryzen APUs are going to give you 1050ti level performance if you go with the 2400G 

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2 minutes ago, matus177 said:

Well, that is a fast ram you have. Just make sure that mb supports ram that fast and you should be okay. I think that apu will be happy to have something like that.

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I believe the new Ryzen APUs are going to give you 1050ti level performance if you go with the 2400G 

So with only a 2400g and an SSD could I possibly use an external 120W PSU? 

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Node 202 is Mini-ITX not Micro-ATX... They are two very different form factors. 

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I believe the new Ryzen APUs are going to give you 1050ti level performance if you go with the 2400G 

Not even close to 1050Ti performance...

 

If you go with a 1050Ti, what CPU would you put there? Even R3 1200 + 1050Ti would be a sound choice. 

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Just now, BuckGup said:

 

So with only a 2400g and an SSD could I possibly use an external 120W PSU? 

You would be stretching it too much imo. 

The Node 202 has a version that comes with a 450W PSU (not top quality, but decent). 

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3 minutes ago, Eibe said:

Node 202 is Mini-ITX not Micro-ATX... They are two very different form factors. 

 

Not even close to 1050Ti performance...

 

If you go with a 1050Ti, what CPU would you put there? Even R3 1200 + 1050Ti would be a sound choice. 

Probably intel with a 8100 or 8400

2 minutes ago, Eibe said:

You would be stretching it too much imo. 

The Node 202 has a version that comes with a 450W PSU (not top quality, but decent). 

What about a 180W one

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Probably intel with a 8100 or 8400

What about a 180W one

I would go with the discrete GPU build then. 

 

180W could work, but you would have half case empty, and the APU won't perform nearly as well in games due to graphics limitations. 

 

AMD Ryzen APUs are really good, but only when compared to other integrated graphics such as Intel. They cannot really compete against discrete GPUs (unless we are talking ablut GPUs such as the 1030). 

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2 minutes ago, Eibe said:

I would go with the discrete GPU build then. 

 

180W could work, but you would have half case empty, and the APU won't perform nearly as well in games due to graphics limitations. 

 

AMD Ryzen APUs are really good, but only when compared to other integrated graphics such as Intel. They cannot really compete against discrete GPUs (unless we are talking ablut GPUs such as the 1030). 

I already have a 270X lying around. How would that compare to a 2400G?

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

I already have a 270X lying around. How would that compare to a 2400G?

It would be slightly better, but not by a long shot. 

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7 minutes ago, Eibe said:

It would be slightly better, but not by a long shot. 

So would a 1050 be good? Or a 1050ti?

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Just now, BuckGup said:

So would a 1050 be good? Or a 1050ti?

Yeah definitely. I would go with something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($142.76 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.86 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($86.54 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $634.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-05 19:13 EDT-0400

 

It would be quite a neat system with top-tier quality PSU, a 4-core/8-thread CPU, and a 1050Ti (which is much better than an APU). 

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800X3D Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Black Mobo: Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT RAM: G.Skill 2x16GB @ 6400 MHz SSD: PNY XLR8 2TB PSU: Corsair RM1000x Case: Fractal Design North Monitor 1: Asus XG27AQWMG(280Hz) Monitor 2: Asus VG259QM (240Hz)

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Yeah definitely. I would go with something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($142.76 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.86 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($204.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($86.54 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $634.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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It would be quite a neat system with top-tier quality PSU, a 4-core/8-thread CPU, and a 1050Ti (which is much better than an APU). 

What about this

CPU:i5 8100

GPU: 1060 3gb

 

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Low-Profile-Cooler-Retail-Cooling/dp/B009VCAJ7W/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522969778&sr=1-3&keywords=lga+1151+low+profile+cooler

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product

 

https://www.amazon.com/Cougar-VTX600-Supply-Certified-Ultra-Silent/dp/B06WGM4HYD/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522969838&sr=1-8&keywords=SFX+PSU

 

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-8400-Desktop-Processor-BX80684i58400/dp/B0759FTRZL/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522967634&sr=1-1&keywords=intel%2Bi7%2B8400&th=1

 

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-B250I-GAMING-PRO/dp/B01MY5KXW8/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522969555&sr=1-7&keywords=micro%2Bitx%2Bmotherboard%2B1151&th=1

 

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Support-06G-P4-6163-KR/dp/B01KUADE3O/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1522970082&sr=1-4&keywords=gtx1060&th=1

 

Total: $648

 

 

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PSU is not good and too big for the case (you need a SFX PSU). Motherboard is not compatible with the CPU.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Eibe said:

PSU is not good and too big for the case (you need a SFX PSU). Motherboard is not compatible with the CPU.

 

 

How about this

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Adapter-FX502VM-GL502VM-GL502VS/dp/B06XQ4JZ2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522970770&sr=1-4&keywords=180w+laptop+charger

 

http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-160-XT

 

https://www.amazon.com/Morex-Universal-Mini-ITX-Fan-less-Compact/dp/B0087TS1S4/ref=pd_sbs_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0087TS1S4&pd_rd_r=4EJQC4FDST3MCAK7JX12&pd_rd_w=CrcOD&pd_rd_wg=v12Zo&psc=1&refRID=4EJQC4FDST3MCAK7JX12

 

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Radeon-Graphics/dp/B079D8FD28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522971246&sr=8-1&keywords=2400g

 

https://www.amazon.com/Cryorig-CR-C7A-Flow-Heatsink-47mm/dp/B0177GTV9U/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522971288&sr=1-4&keywords=am4+low+profile+cpu+cooler

 

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-AB350N-Gaming-WIFI-Fusion-Motherboard/dp/B073PWKSP6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1522971246&sr=8-4&keywords=2400g

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I am no expert in Pico PSUs but it might work. No need to get the Cryorig C7. The stockcooler is good and silent enough (if it fits). 

CPU: Ryzen 7 9800X3D Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Black Mobo: Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ 9070 XT RAM: G.Skill 2x16GB @ 6400 MHz SSD: PNY XLR8 2TB PSU: Corsair RM1000x Case: Fractal Design North Monitor 1: Asus XG27AQWMG(280Hz) Monitor 2: Asus VG259QM (240Hz)

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CPU: Ryzen 5 7600 Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S Mobo: Asus B650E-i RAM: Kingston Server Premier ECC 2x32GB (DDR5) SSD: Samsung 980 2x1TB HDD: Toshiba MG09 1x18TB; Toshiba MG08 2x16TB HDD Controller: LSI 9207-8i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Node 304

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